Open Thread for now (duh - aren't they all)... I'll be back with some words after things get sorted out...
Morning Audibles 6.18.10 - Open Thread
Sorry, having a few technical problems this morning...
Open Thread for now (duh - aren't they all)... I'll be back with some words after things get sorted out...
Open Thread for now (duh - aren't they all)... I'll be back with some words after things get sorted out...
115 comments:
Read the CR post about Krugman. Very interesting. I am having a little trouble with it, and you must understand I am the reincarnation of Herbert Hoover himself....But the massive stimulus has so far down little for the unemployed man on the street, and it has allowed the big banks to essentially carry on as before the crisis hit.
The size of government needs to be cut drastically, so that money stays on mainstreet and is available to the average Joe. I don't think the pump priming now that kills future generations is the way to go.
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Detroit takes top spot in auto quality survey
Greenspan says in the WSJ-
the runaway Federal Deficit threatens to turn the US into the next Greece.
He doesn't actually think that the US debt bears any credit risk, due to our ability to print at will, but that there is a substantial risk that borrowing costs will soar
of course borrowing cost are dependent on demand- but I wonder where we would be if rates on treasuries were closer to 7 or 8 percent- the interest becoming a larger and larger part of the budget- but as Greenspan said- I guess we can print at will- and I guess pay our interest with the new dollars-
I am sure that wouldn't cause any concerns
"Agriculture, Oil Futures Markets Are Not Driven By Speculators, OECD". www.bloomberg.com/news/regions/Canada.html
Really? What happened with Sugar and why there is so much oil stored in tankers?
this is pretty damn funny- John Stewart doing his thing- fool me once shame on you- fool me eight items- I am a fucking idiot
An Energy Independent Future
hat tip Kid Dynamite
Serbia wins.
@Ahab,
The mess that Greenspan caused. He's a printing machine. He's part of the problem- world over.
...remember the Romans - clipping their coins, print, print, print...always has been, always will be...
@Wes
I remember it like it was yesterday (Romans)...
Is my screen funny, or are the cash markets lagging way behind the SPY?
LOL! This blog is the perfect start to my morning! Seeing $gold up doesn't hurt either.. not that my little miner is back at its highs, rolling my eyes. Good morning everyone! (Lakers won! Was that close, or what?!)
thought of the day:
"Every dollar you spend is a vote for what you value in life."
hat tip TBP-
and as BR has demonstrated- sometimes that means yachts and sports cars-
still a good thought though
Karen,
Let's not talk about it...
Wes-
I think you were the one who turned me on that Mises article re the Romans and currency debasement- it was great stuff- I have passed that along to a lot of people
..you italian, cv
ahab- i recall that very well...
For the past 11 years the week after June options expiration has been negative for stocks
ahab, i really don't like that quote at all... frowning.
so what's up Wes-
you an engineer or a geologist? Or some other specialty in the oil biz I am unaware of?
Nic, I really like your quote... smiling.
karen @ 9:48-
shoes come in handy- so they have value-
better than being barefoot- right?
@ahab - ocean engineer, in the oil biz...yes
staying out of jail via paying my taxes comes in handy, too. that quote is annoying as hell for some reason. a rock is hard. how's that for an equally deep quote?
wes, can't say i like your avatar much. too sad!
ocean engineer?
sounds pretty cool- so you are involved putting those rigs up in the oceans- quite an engineering feat that is-
I knew you were a smart dude
@k - it is very, very sad, indeed...
Karen-
I wouldn't consider paying your taxes as spending-
a rock is hard?. . .hmmmm . . .profound
Ahab's quote should read "Every HARD EARNED dollar you spend..."
So I guess it doesn't apply to you... smiling.
@wes
Oh that settles it then...
I thought an "ocean engineer" was someone who drove trains underwater...
ahab,
i do floating production facilities which may or may not have drilling capability,
i am not so much involved with exploratory drilling,
more on the long term production side of deepwater field development...planning and designing offshore "floating real estate"
Just think...
Every tax dollar you spend is funding two wars and a whole list of other nice things...
CV, thank you for sticking up for me but monopoly money is funding those wars and all those other nice things..
They are going to kill us all, I am convince of that.
WE, humans have no respect for mother nature.
DP
everyone watch that John Stewart piece I posted-
it is hysterical-
gotta roll out- all have a great day!
..second that, Jon Stewart clip is great...
just caught up with last night's thread.. thanks AR.. those spy candles seem to be playing out today.. but i no longer trust my own mind in this market.
BEST Jon Stewart ever!
@ AmenRa
re: "The Myth: The filling of the reservoir behind Three Gorges Dam in China changed the rotation of the Earth."
The weight of gold GLD is holding in their vaults should offset this... NO?
spx has crossed over 50 ema.. now can it hold?
@Amen
NASA scientists calculated that shift of such as mass would increase the length of day by only 0.06 microseconds
That explains everything...
Goldman Sachs is behind everything, (as slowing things down by 0.06 microseconds would allow their HFT algos to front run and cram in a bunch more trades ahead of yours)...
qqqqtrader
I think GLD is trying to stop PHYS from taking all available physical gold.
EURCHF is below 1.3730. Is is time for SNB intervention? Do they have enough left to intervene?
Blimey Slovenia is kicking your butts
...not kicking my but
This is fantastic.. Ron Artest after last night's game.. Makes me want to laugh and cry! (in a better way than the Jon Stewart video..)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oda0WkFcus0&playnext_from=TL&videos=tVMW7cETVA8
from: http://www.fundmymutualfund.com/
1120 is the 'exponential' moving average; if you are curious the 'simple' moving average is up at 1140 so I'd assume that would be the next upside target if we breach here.
As hard as it is to believe - if bears cannot put a stop to this soon - it appears we are simply back to the low volume, V shape grind up moves that are so atypical in history (normally you see volume EXPAND on moves up) but now becoming routine since summer 2009. As with much of the past year if there is not a market moving event that causes humans to react, the market simply grinds up or sideways on algo trading ... almost self automated at this point.
explain this one to me please:
June 18 (Bloomberg) -- Citigroup Inc. plans to raise more than $3 billion for its private-equity and hedge funds, even as U.S. lawmakers consider banning banks from owning and investing in so-called alternative funds, people with direct knowledge of the plan said.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aFwyocuhTJro&pos=1
an easy chart i picked up from an afraidtotrade commentor:
http://s657.photobucket.com/albums/uu293/bigelkhorn/uii.png
seems too obvious still but no arguing above 1120.
@karen
Here's a DOW chart that's similar to that one...
Thing is... Look at the blue boxes... Very similar levels to those of February...
In February, the market at least afforded a RETEST back...
This would imply around 1090 on SPX as a correlation...
FWIW...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TwUS3GyHKsQ/TBqo1A0FRDI/AAAAAAAAF38/XCkOS1B1zUo/s1600/2010-06-17-PROPHET.png
excellent, cv..
I said "imply" :-/
Damn divergence indicators are flashing so overbought right now...
It's something like 4 waves lower on 10 minute charts...
Algos seem to know how to blow all logic...
CV
You will be assimilated.
Slv 2 - USA 2
I've been having fun with these.. overlaying on spx: $cmpkte, $cmpktb, and $cmpktl.
so 'splain to me why edu's ball in the net was disallowed? (can't get the game live here at the ol' workstation)
1120 is done.. stick a fork in it as my chef friend would say.
@karem
x2
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9F0JHqrtlSs/R1yj4SPHHnI/AAAAAAAAArI/CRGCKIA-q4w/s1600-R/stick-a-fork-in-it_web.jpg
Has everyone been assimilated? I'm lonely!
That ref should be banned from World Cup-
Fucking ridiculous! Just fucking disgraceful.
Assimilated?
@karen
I'm just sitting here wit a dazed look on my face...
What the hell needs to happen to get this market to correct back a little...
We're back to March April...
borg, dl. borg.
personally i was thinking that summertime ennui (there it is again, cv) has set in and this market will work sideways longer than anyone can stand.
Probably get a bit of a correction next week.
All the way down to 1096 (or so).
DL, i love it when you talk like that.. gives me real HOPE (not Obama's kind.)
Hello Karen!
Quote of the day:
"watching US play today was like trading on OPEX - your losing, your (almost) winning, you close flat."
Karen @ 1:28
Then again, we may not get below 1105. The point is, I see the correction next week as very shallow.
We're going to 1150, like it or not.
SPX wants to go lower but the algos keep getting in the way. Traders are rolling over put contracts and dumping calls (my .02)
AmenRa,
I think the VIX continues to trend lower over the next few weeks. Down to 18, maybe less.
DL, last June-July the spx went from 875is to 1150.. a six month rally with a 275 point rise.. why can't we do the same thing this summer? i can't imagine not seeing 1300-1350 by year end.
especially with all the new QE, right?!
DL
That's what the market expects but we know how that usually works out.
Karen,
1300 by year-end?
I don't know if you're serious, or just playing.
I suppose I could see 1275 by January (2011).
So much for the housing recovery...
Karen
That's why I added the lumber chart to yesterdays corner. If lumber prices are falling hard then home builders have no work because they're not building.
AmenRa,
Copper is also worth paying attention to.
Been rather weak lately.
Will there be a rumor over the weekend used to try and weaken gold?
Karen,
You posted in duplicate.
You posted in duplicate.
So what is Dr. copper trying to say?
let's figure out what the dollar is trying to say.. : )
i can't imagine the market selling off here.. longs won't get to take advantage of the gap up on monday !!!
First post from I and I Cockpit...
I'm going to enjoy these monitors.
Whats the shortcut to open a new window?
I-Man, welcome back !! best to ignore me, this afternoon.. my sarcasm knows no bounds : )
I-Man,
Now all you need is a string of winning trades to pay for it all.
hey, I-Man, what time is it in Seattle?
All good Karen, I see we're just treading h2o.
@ DL
No shit, mane...
I paid outright for it though. No credit shit.
Ha! I aint in Seattle, but its 12:15pm.
Not 5pm yet,
:)
But it will be earlier than later because this afternoon the brokers are taking the I-Man out his farewell event...
Happy hour on the river. Could get nasty.
okay, we are the same time i guess..
"out FOR his farewell event..."
Probably consume a few too many ipa's... I'm getting dropped off there.
:)
Oh, it's five someplace, that wasn't why i was asking.. my husband is flying there.. wondering how he will react to my last text upon arrival, laughing.
I-Man,
I wish you all the luck in the world
(as long as you're not trading against any of my positions).
you will have a fun time, I-Man; but don't wreck your weekend.. remember moderation : )
I see someone already defaced that ref's wikipedia page...
Thats a low blow, really.
I was really pissed earlier, and still dont even know why the goal was waived, but I'm sure the dude knows he absolutely blew it. I've forgiven him already.
I've always had fun in seattle, only been up there for ball games though. I'm closer to portland than seattle.
I'm afraid we are going to live Nic's 1:31 quote today.. i'll think i'll try to be productive for the next 30 min..
Alright, catch yall later.
Enjoy the close.
Should be real exciting. Pfft...
What's interesting to me at the moment is that if you start with the 1042 as a bottom (after 1040)...
We rallied hard for a day, then closed right on a 61.8% retrace of that rally... (1055)
Since that close, the TRENDLINE for that close has not been closed UNDER...
It was about to yesterday (until the miracle rally at the end of the day led it back in that direction)...
Today, we started off following that trendline again (but have leveled off)...
This kind of thing could lead to a gap down (on bad news) Monday... OR... Some kind of "catch up" move (quickly to regain the trendline)...
Either way, I expect Monday to be more volatile than today...
Mofos are trying to churn higher into the close.
Go Algeria!!
I just fell asleep watching the England game and the markets weren't enough to keep me awake either ... awful day.
Remember when opex was fun or at least kept you awake? ugh
Hope everyone has a great weekend.
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