I think the question here is... Notwithstanding AMEN RA's hurricane icon... "Where are we"?... There are some minor FIBOS in play and some Leading Diagonals ("LD's") associated close to those levels, but right now that range is fairly broad (meaning there can be some huge intraday swings in the market that LOOK like something major happened, but that really don't resolve anything...
So this morning I decided to take a larger view... This is a WEEKLY chart on SPX (going back 10 years)... It's too complicated to annotate on the chart, so I'm just going to paste it here, and make some comments below that correspond to the colors... I apologize in advance that there are a lot of different things on that chart (so I hope your eyes don't get sore)...
Notes:
LEADING DIAGONALS (black lines) - Note that the top LD does not extend from the March 2000 highs, it extends from the "breakdown point" (in October 2000) when the rally was essentially "given up"... Wavers would associate that usually with the end of a P2... Notice on this chart that this LD could end up co-inciding with an END of P2 (at 1219.8) from the March '09 rally... Notice that the next LD crosses some important barriers... It crosses the TEST of the 89SMA (in the summer of '06), and it frankly cuts right through the "collapse" in '08, as is as well associated with the February '10 lows of 1044, and the most recent low of 1040... This is CLEARLY a line some do not want to cross...
If that is taken out, it's anybody's guess where the next support level might be...
- 1016 (where there is a chart gap)
- 1000 (technically insignificant - but psychological)
- 992 (modest chart support & right about on the 89SMA - which, if you follow the entire 2003-2007 advance, gave a pretty good indication of where the market was going to be supported...
HEAD & SHOULDERS (yellow shaded areas above LD's) - It's just interesting to me that the "bubble" part of '06-'08 had this aspect... Now there seems to be a new one forming (albeit one LD "fan line" below)
FRACTALS (green boxes) - I had a "whistling" video up as a thread last week... I just want to remind everyone how closely the late '07 fractal looked to the February-April '10 moonshot...
RISING LD'S (red lines) - It's pretty clear to see how the candles & 89SMA behaved from the '02 bottom... I tried as best I could to draw a parallel diagonal from the March '09 bottom... Mainly what you'll note is that, AT MINIMUM, it would seem that if the market can get itself wrapped around some positive news, a path like that is going to be tested... That's going to put us somewhere in the 800's (and probably THIS YEAR)... Some may argue that the Fed will come in & intervene beforehand, but I dismiss that... Why? When do they EVER do that? In fact, they do just the opposite... You had BB talking positive just yesterday (which the markets responded to for about an hour, then sold off)... The FED is out of bullets (save for QE)... The next round will come AFTER the S&P gets into the 800's NOT as a measure to prevent that from happening... Until then, they'll just keep saying things like back in '07 like, "Subprime is contained"... yada yada...
So the bottom line, to me, at the moment, is to consider how long SPX can withstand and hold off crashing through 1040... It seems to me that any break of that level will be pretty violent... It'll probably take us somewhere around 50 S&P points lower (and could extend further)...
I just wish it would just happen (and get it over with)... You'd be likely to see a nice bounce off the next level, which would lead to some good trading opportunities over the summer (both long & short)...
Good Luck!
In other news... While you were sleeping, Obama won the Stanley Cup (in his spare time)...
Chicago Blackhawks 4 - Philadelphia Flyers 3
And this is how those gracious Chicagoans treat their good fortune (by "mocking" the other teams players and insulting women athletes in the process)... CLASSY!
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 342 of 342 Newer› Newest»Actually CV, sometimes I think Obama has just made himself and easy target. Promises on the campaign trail, socialist leanings in the least socialist developed economic country, anti-military moves once elected including Israel and Arlington with no military history and a decided liberal bias.
But he did win fair and square, and frankly, I am not sure the conservatives (in quotes) that we elect are the brightest bulbs in the barn either. Lots of people in the US look at socialized Europe and say, "What's so wrong with big government and very high taxes? They have health care and education, and lots of vacation and so on and so forth...." I could never be comfortable in that type system, but I haven't held public office either....
But they are eating the ass out of TWSWB as being to liberal the last few days, so maybe I have one friend or two.
Go Carly! Go Meg!
Careney and Canada are in for a rude awakening.
re: European debt crisis
"It's really only been three weeks of this event and so there's been a modest impact on financial conditions — a slight tightening of financial conditions in Canada — and a modest impact on commodity prices," Carney said at a news conference.
"But it's not over. You know, this is serious stuff," he said, adding that it is "incredibly important" to execute the right policies to deal with the situation."
"Although the coming changes will be significant, Carney dismissed critics who believe the requirement for more capital reserves will limit banks' ability to lend and slow down economic activity.
mcHAPPY has been talking about the PIIGS since November/December - what about you guys?
Now I do agree with the following because for REAL growth to occur in the future, it will HAVE TO happen.
"In fact, the opposite will happen, he said.
The reforms will cause banks to shift focus away from trading risky financial instruments and more to conventional lending to businesses and individuals that spur growth, he argued.""
"Ever since the crisis began, some of us have been trying to get across the point that you have to be very careful with your historical precedents, that things work very differently when you have a synchronized severe financial crisis, with interest rates near zero everywhere. And here we are, two years in, and it’s as if we’ve been talking to a wall."
The hardest undergraduate course I took was a chemical engineering 5500 level course in heat transfer and thermodynamics just before I left to do what I do now. Only 8 of us in the class.
Probably good Obama didn't study geological engineering....he'd still be in class.
@BinT
I never said any of the GOP were smart...
In fact... That's EXACTLY my point...
The score?
GOP = Dumber than a box of rocks (and content to be so)
LIBERALS = Dumber than a box of rocks (but trying to pretend to be smart)
The problem with liberals aren't their IDEAS - it's the reality and operational aspects of their ideas...
@72bat:
Wouldn't they have to go through foreclosure or bankruptcy for that to occur?
I would bet that figures while showing that net worth is increasing because of the higher income strata, that debt is being pared by the lower incomes.....
...just seems to be logical to me....
I mostly align myself with liberal "thought"...
Until the time comes to EXECUTE a plan into operation... Then - I default the LCD of what's functional and hopefully will make a marginal improvement...
In baseball terms... CV is happy with "bunt singles", "sacrifices", "moving runners forward", and "stolen bases"...
NOT
Swinging for the fences & strikeouts...
@BinT (1:06)
My brother in law has a PHD in exactly that...
He stayed in class...
Angelina Jolie for president! Then we could have press conferences EVERY day!
...and the ladies could see the first stud, and we'd all be happy! What could happen?
GS ANNOUNCES THAT THEY ARE "NO WHERE NEAR SETTLEMENT"
@cv: It's all good though. Debt doesn't count when determining "wealth". Pretend it's not there and it isn't. For a while.
10 Thots for Those Buying or Selling BP
I tell you CV, I thought engineering was fairly tough. But if you are oriented to it,mathematically, it isn't. When I went to what I do now, the first two years you memorize and regurgitate facts with a bunch of eggheads who have wanted to do only this since they could walk. If you have seen The Paper Chase with John Houseman about the first year of Harvard Law School, it is a lot like that.
Sad but true, my mum is still holding her BP shares from 1991 (they used to pay a good div). Today she asked me if she should sell.
What did you say to her, Nic?
@BinT
Actually - That baseball metaphor that I used above aptly describes my thinking going in to the 2008 election...
Let's say CV is the manager of a team that is behind 2-0 in a ballgame going into the 9th inning...
I'm thinking...
"OK - I need to get my first runner on base, so that potentially the game tying run comes to the plate - or otherwise I can marginally improve my odds"
I look at my bench and see this promising young rookie, fresh out of AA ball, just called up to the BIG LEAGUES...
I decide I could use him as a pinch hitter, but I counsel him to "just make contact" (or even wait a few pitches to see if he can work the count to a couple of balls and no strikes - and get on base with a walk)...
I toss him in to bat... WHAT DOES HE DO?... He starts taking cuts for the fences...
Even if he succeeds - I'm still down 2-1... But now that he struck out trying, I'm down an out, and my window of opportunity is closing...
These are the frustrations of a 'managerial' mind... NOT an eager beaver minor league prospect...
1072 is about to go Lewinsky...
That was my contribution to the political discussion.
LOL - I.
Thanks, man.
@Nic
I 2x PE...
What do you tell her?
CV:
I find it still interesting that the last 400 hitter routinely took the first strike...(not the first pitch)....
I told my mum to hold BP as we are at big 61.8 fib from 1992 low to all time high. If this level breaks then sell but we should at least get a bounce here.
I am thinking about telling her to double up ...
As contrarian indicators go, Mums are pretty reliable ;)
Nic, BP could be another F. When the world was ending, F went down to 1.01. You, if you'd bought that day, could have had a 12-bagger on the second largest US auto company....
Perhaps BP is F...
U.S. long bond auction:
$13 Bln 29 Yr 11 Mnth Bonds At High Yield 4.182%, Awards 84.84% Of Bids At High
well, I think I'm done for the day, I had a decent trade on the 108 SPY June puts that expire tomorrow, got them at .64, out at .80.
and I survive until tomorrow, hopefully not sitting here at the close wondering why I covered so soon.
Nic, I was just on your blog (great write up) and wanted to bring something to your attention re: crude and perhaps get your opinion.. dope that i am, i just realized that COT was on the bottom of the crude chart at finviz and might proffer some tell on the weekly view.
http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=CL&p=w1
seems to me when commercial hedgers are "in" or above zero, crude is bottoming and it seems safe to go long..
also noted that a straight edge on the commerical hedge peaks is declining line..
@BinT
Trouble is... Ford hit 20% of it's 1987 low...
BP ain't quite at those depths yet...
Hi K
I agree about cot reports. I hear a lot of spec money got shaken out and burned badly but might be creeping back in.
@CV:
Give Obama time.
I agree CV and BinT. It is very risky. I don't see BP cutting their dividend because they know its a kiss of death (I might be very wrong). Risky but we are at a key level, see what she does
@McF
Now that you're OUT (and have no monetary interest)...
Frankly...
CV hopes you ARE wondering why you covered so soon... :-)
@Nic
Actually... At least you've probably determined a good level...
IOW - Further weakness would not be good from here... Thus, it's an opportune "stop loss" moment if things were to deteriorate...
And she banked the dividends at least... A little income there...
Yeah, McFearfull...
Whats the dealio?
;)
C,
I still have other shorts....and I'm still sitting here watching...lol.
I'm looking at other puts already is what I'm saying.....lol, it's only quarter to 2, I just can't walk away yet, but I did just have an interesting lunch with PIMCO rep.....
that bp chart is ominious.. long read and today's black.. portends for a down day tomorrow..
likewise c is putting in an ugly black candle that could cap the rise.. even with ackman out there talking his book..
Good thing I dont have a trading account anymore, or I'd be all over those puts...
Always was a sucker for the 1 day to exp contracts...
Going back to basketball...
Consider that the team that wins GAME 3 has an 87% chance of winning the NBA Championship...
The Celtics "age" looks like it may be a factor here...
just for laughs:
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/sp-500-going-back-to-1250-it's-a-great-time-to-buy-stocks-bob-doll-says-502095.html?tickers=%5Eixic,%5Egspc,%5Edji,spy,blk,qqqq,iwn&sec=topStories&pos=8&asset=&ccode=
@McF
Wanna PUT?
Look at my previous comments (and chart in thread) on BIDU...
It's going to lop off 8 bucks in 3 days...
I,
yes, I like trading these day before expy as well.
I'm really tempted to buy BP puts but they don't really look "cheap" and now I know Nic's mom is long.....can find something else.
C,
did you cover your bee do short?
Agreed, cv. I'm wondering if they're simply out of gas. One thing that gives me hope is the team's resilience. Remember, they got spanked by 29 at home in Game 3 vs. the Cavs to go down 2-1 and then won the next three. Every time they look like they're through, they come up big. That's where all the experience (ahem, age) is a plus. I think they got at least one or two gut check games left in them, especially with the home crowd willing them to a victory.
"In any case, the lack of refis in such a positive mortgage rate environment is nearly as bad a sign as the now 5-week drop in purchase applications. It just proves that government involvement in the housing market is a double-edged sword; it helped in the short term, but will clearly require payback for a long way down the road."
http://www.cnbc.com/id/37596631
aapl looking peaky, as in three of 'em.
@McF
Look at the chart I put in the thread (on BIDU)...
Doesn't that have the look of an ABC down from the top?
Note: yes I covered... But I covered at the level it's at now (on what looks to be the B wave up)...
That thing is going to $62 quickly (unless it gets some more mojo today or tomorrow)...
More bear lube, please.
I'm actually thinking for a number of reasons I'm better off shorting the NAZ than the S&P....
thoughts?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/7816934/BP-oil-spill-Dudley-to-become-face-of-US-response-as-Svanberg-focuses-on-politics.html
BP oil spill: Dudley to become face of US response as Svanberg focuses on politics
Tony Hayward, chief executive of BP, is set to return to the UK after next week’s Congressional hearings in Washington, as the embattled oil company prepares to open up a fresh political front in its battle over the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.
Speculation centers on why Mr. Hayward would return to London at this time. Most analysts have suggested he has decided to undergo cosmetic surgery. Our correspondent managed to get these few lines from a very busy Mr. Hayward," I'm going to have an arse reconstruction having had my arse eaten out since I've been here in the states. I am having the damnedest trouble going to the loo in my flat between meetings, since the padding on my buttocks is all gone. I'll return as soon as I'm healed."
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@McF
As I said before $COMP hasn't made a higher high yet today...
C,
I'll have to take a harder look at the chart.
I'm really starting to come around to the idea of wave 4 triangle happening right now....that means we've got one more leg down before the larger bounce up.
This here is worth a read today, hat tip to some of the posters at Dan's for mention:
http://www.elliottwave.com/freeupdates/archives/2010/06/09/Strong-Breadth-Strong-Momentum-Strong-Market.aspx
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=a2pp43bo85hY
Revalue Renminbi or Dogs Unleashed, Patterson Says
"June 10 (Bloomberg) -- China has until the end of the month to strengthen its currency before Congressional leaders impose measures to counter what they say is an unfair trade advantage, according to JPMorgan Chase & Co.’s Rebecca Patterson.
Senator Charles Schumer of New York has introduced a bill that would require the Treasury Department to determine if a nation has a currency misaligned with the U.S. dollar. The proposal would let companies seek import duties to compensate for an undervalued currency and impose tariffs. China must begin strengthening the yuan, also known as the renminbi, before the Group of 20 meeting in Toronto on June 25, Patterson said"
...Looks to me like you have until the end of the month to make any long money in the market. After that...UNLEASH THOSE TAFIFF DOGS!
sometimes I spell tariff, tafiff just for fun...
What's a tafiff?
Senator Charles Schumer of New York has introduced a bill that would require the Treasury Department to determine if a nation has a currency misaligned with the U.S. dollar.
Can anybody detect anything wrong with a politician endeavoring to undertake that type of "determination of misalignment"?
Is there a sneaky "fundamental catalyst" lurking in that dark alley over there?
Gotta watch out for those, y'know...
there has to be a fundamental catlyst for us to go down big.
-Tan Joe
See Bruce...
That's what I was talking about before...
Liberals think they know the answer to every problem...
We've got a handful of pretty skillful traders on this blog, that can't make heads or tails out of the situation at the moment...
@Tan Joe
There has to be a "fundamental catalyst" for you to go to the tanning salon and plunk quarters into the machine to make your skin turn orange...
Oompah Loompah... Doompity Do...
alright, new orders in, we'll see if they are too low.
My TLT getting spanked! No worries. I may back up the truck for more at some point.
lets see if the 13 EMA on the Q's continues to act as resistance...was support pretty much all the way up from the Feb lows
Comments from the UK. The truth hurts. People getting testy.
If you compare the damage inflicted on the economies of the western world by polluted securities from the irresponsible, unchecked greed and avarice of leading USA international banks, there has not been the same personalised response in or from countries beyond the US. Perhaps a case of double standards?"
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/chairman-british-insurance-company-rsa-john-napier-attacks-obama-over-bp-handling-accuses-pr
Pass the TLT lube.
VIX be creepin... JNK ripe for a beatin...
a tafiff is what Barney Frank calls a tariff...
breaking out of the triangle here? could be....
SPXU is what I-Man be peepin...
Unless we break out in to a triple zig zag, me be expecting a resolution in the next 2 trading days.
f-ing triple ZZ...I said that back in September of last year....
Keep short positions small, lest you be freakin...
Conservative Lord Tebbit's quote is just too vitriolic to paraphrase.
From The Daily Mail:
"The whole might of American wealth and technology is displayed as utterly unable to deal with the disastrous spill - so what more natural than a crude, bigoted, xenophobic display of partisan political Presidential petulance against a multinational company," said Lord Tebbit.
....I wish he would quit pulling his punches and say what he really thinks...
Definitely want to keep short small positions, I crapped my pants a couple of days ago and am still kicing myself - a great moment of weakness. So I'm just living with it for now knowing that there will be a chance to get out even if we go to new highs or not and realizing when this finally breaks down it will be long forgotten. That said, I do not regret my position yesterday at around 1073.
nattering nabobs of negativism, already...
(WHO here is old enough to remember who said that without looking it up?)
Jah! Risk management.
spiro
My 2:48 is with a break of 1091.81.
anonymous:
You and I win the older than dirt award....
Finally a decent reversal candle at 14:50 on the 5-min SPX chart.
spiro t. agnew
@ ben/pe/still mining dirt
i'm just slower ('cos i'm older)
BP forming a bullish harami star on the daily chart. Just saying.
i had to look it up.. all i could think was rudyard kipling.. guess the real owner of the phrase was william safire:
As a writer, Safire is most often associated with the short bursts he wrote in speeches given by Vice President Spiro Agnew, before Agnew was forced to retire under a cloud of charges by the U.S. Attorney in Baltimore: extortion, bribery, tax fraud, and conspiracy. "Nattering nabobs of negativism" was a phrase in a speech of November 13, 1969. It suggested that critics of the Vietnam War were as rich as nabobs and as mindless as chattering apes. A trick from the lower drawer of Kipling, it served its reckless purpose in heating the resentments of the time. Safire’s other best-known phrase, "an effete corps of impudent snobs," had been given to Agnew to speak just a month earlier at the time of the October 15 peace moratorium."
http://original.antiwar.com/david-bromwich/2009/09/30/william-safire-wars-made-out-of-words/
AR, how you get bullish out of that candle if beyone me !!!
I didnt think anyone over 50 knew how to use a computer...
i just want to see 1080 break..
Just playin...
I love all you old folks, like surrogate parents, you are.
kudlow uses that expression all the time...
i bet that anon is lb.. he knows everything!
cv @ 3:07, that figures!
Mighty fine dirt.
"utterly unable to deal with the disastrous spill" has always been baked in the cake. prevention/containment/clean-up technology has not advanced in parallel with drilling "capability" (no profit in it).
it's always been the long risk, willingly undertaken by industry and government alike with the tacit understanding, "we'll just serve that shit sandwich to the american people should the occasion ever arise."
eat hearty.
@I-Man
I'm tradin' off a Commodore 64...
And on the other screen I'm playing PONG...
orders hit....
Karen
It still needs confirmation :-)
we do have potentially bullish news on deck for tomorrow.. retail sales !
Charles Plosser Speaks
8:20 AM ET
Retail Sales
8:30 AM ET
Consumer Sentiment
9:55 AM ET
Business Inventories
10:00 AM ET
Narayana Kocherlakota Speaks
12:00 PM ET
PONG
reminds me, seeing a blurb recently about ronald wayne, worked at atari, 3rd partner of jobs and wozniak. wayne received $800 for his 10% stake in Apple. would have been worth as much as $1.5 billion. lives in nevada today, "getting by" on ss and playing penny slots.
and we love you too, I-Man....now go stand in the corner.
ok, i-man, you're on. time for your call.., ramp job into the close or peters off
1087 or 1072, take your pick.
Anything over 1091.81 will hurt short term for anyone short but longer term (4-5 days) will be extremely profitable. Personally (as long as we are going down of course) I'm hoping we break 1105.67. The fall will be epic given this would imply minor 1 was 1219.80-1040.78. Any move over 1105.67 would not last long, either.
my spxu just got stopped out @ spx 1084
live to fight another day
mchappy -
hope you are prescient about that 1105
I've been underestimating the foolishness of market participants all day, so why not 1097?
1093 is the 20 ema..
i-man, what is 1087? 1086 ad 1087 are always in my head for some reason..
When the market opens 20 handles up from the previous day's close...
Shit is treacherous.
@karen
1087 is the square root of 1,181,569...
Not sure, I know 1078 is phi...
But yeah, I feel the same way about those, I think its just the fact that we've spent so much time in this range over the last year, all the numbers are looking familiar.
I,
Me like your thinking. Personally looking at a solid five up, not on squiggles, but on the hourly chart.
End at 1087, drop to 1072 in 3 waves, and 5 more waves up to end a double zig zag and minor 2.
The alternate view is we just completed a triangle and are heading down in a 5 to end minor 3 off 1173.
alright, we did break out...nice, as mentioned this morning, that's a clean countertrend five up from the Tuesday lows to Wed highs, so we knew that couldn't be the end of the move, you can't just have one impulse....we appear to be tracing a new five....volume is light today
not entirely sure about all this but I'm throwing it out there anyway:
"On August 1, give or take a week, we’ll have the most five-planet alignments in perhaps thousands of years. Known as the “Cardinal Climax,” this is the meanest, nastiest, most challenging and most transformational of any planetary phenomena in all of written history!"
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601100&sid=aTbbwidLzqHQ
Deutsche Bank CEO Says Stress Tests Could Be ‘Very Dangerous’
June 10 (Bloomberg) -- Deutsche Bank AG Chief Executive Officer Josef Ackermann said publishing stress tests would be “very, very dangerous” if mechanisms to support European banks weren’t in place beforehand.
"As an example of the problems banks may face, here at Deutsche Bank, right now all we have on reserves in our vault is a 1989 Volkswagen Rabbit that was traded in last month. And we've been unable to find a buyer. Euros on reserve? Don't make me laugh my lederhosen off!"
does anyone here frequent (or read anything at all) kd's ticker forum?
where in a spectrum that includes tbp, zerohedge, mish's site, and survivor capital would ticker forum commenters reside?
just wondering if it's worth the effort to sign up.
your weekly view of the unpaid loan amounts on one little beach towns homes to be auctioned! (and if you don't want to look, yes, it was over $10 million, again!)
http://lagunahomes.freedomblogging.com/2010/06/10/these-laguna-beach-homes-are-off-to-auction-18/5291/
brutel day!!!!!!!!!!!
DP
Bears have been introduced to cell block B...
Karen:
Damn woman, one of those to be auctioned houses has >5million owed!
I thought the comments section on the upcoming auctions was telling:
Reader Comments
Comments are encouraged, but you must follow our User Agreement.
Keep it civil and stay on topic.
No profanity, vulgarity, racial slurs or personal attacks.
People who harass others or joke about tragedies will be blocked.
...People who joke about tragedies will be blocked....ah, yes.....
"The dog ate my mortgage check"
"I loaned my brother a million to buy a new helicopter and missed my payment"
"We've been out of town, actually on Easter Island, and didn't have cell service"
"I'm working on getting a heloc on my other Laguna Beach house to pay this one off"
I would be blocked forever on that site, it seems.........
not a fun day! not looking forward to the wrap! (no offense, AR, laughing.)
Has anyone wondered why:
- Some report today said that US household wealth is down about 15% from peak to today (from around $65 trillion down to $55 trillion)
But:
- Houses are down a minimum of 20%.
- Stocks indexes are down 30%
Other than gold/PM's (a small asset class), *what* asset class is as big as houses and stock but have gone down so little that they bring the average loss back up into the mid teens??
Are they counting muni, state, and federal *bonds*? Bwahahahaha...
dang, i-man, close enough, kudos!
more shocking RE news: Beutsche Bank is New Haven's Foreclosure King
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/06/deutsche_bank_is_americas_fore.html
here we go again:
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Homebuyers may get an extra three months to finish qualifying for federal tax incentives that boosted home sales this spring.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., says he wants to give buyers until Sept. 30 to complete their purchases and qualify for tax credits of up to $8,000. Under the current terms, buyers had until April 30 to get a signed sales contract and until June 30 to complete the sale.
The proposal would only allow people who already have signed contracts to finish at the later date.
Reid introduced the proposal as an amendment to a bill that would extend jobless benefits through the end of November. Reid faces a tough re-election campaign, and his home state has been hard-hit by the housing bust.
can't they just cancel taxes for everyone?!
wunsacon -
speculated earlier today, that household debt destroyed as result of foreclosure/bankruptcy on underwater houses might be an offset? don;t know the relative magnitudes'
Pimco has not been paying attention, obviously.. they've gone bearish this week..
Pimco Says REIT Debt Risky as Economic Slowdown Threatens Rally
June 10 (Bloomberg) -- The rally in bonds from real estate investment trusts that’s made property debt the best performer this year is overdone as a slowing economy may threaten their performance, according to Pacific Investment Management Co.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aHUXtFItlqKM&pos=6
okay, okay, i'll quit now and see you all later! the sun came out.. this market is a fate worse than a great white anyway : )
72bat, that's interesting.
...I still think these are "Bernoccio" numbers.
Karen
I'm not exactly thrilled about doing it either after this BS run up. But I am getting the giggles because GS didn't participate in the rally (-2.2% today). Why do I feel that GS will make everyone pay for this?
Well, if we open at 1072 tomorrow, we'll have our answer...
wunsacon -
"...I still think these are 'Bernoccio' numbers"
well, yeah, so much more plastic than say fibonacci's
Ashraf Laidi on BP and its dividend:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232/?video=1518616667
Aaaaaaahhhhh! That was good.
....was it good for you too, Bears?
over @ zerohedge on "Napier Attacks Obama Over BP Handling" mad max comments on u.k. & u.s. vis-a-vis bp's liabilities:
"both countries were already in bad shape, and a disaster caused by a private corporation is creating severe harm to one of those countries, but asking that corporation to pay for the harm and set aside funds for future payments will cause immediate financial harm to the other country (u.k.'s pension funds).
"This could be our Archduke Ferdinand moment"
Jon Najarian has some extreme stats for today ...
"30 of 38 largest ETF trades (option prints over 10,000) were put sales. That's a sick percentage my friends!"
"15.7 million today. Call sellers hit $VIX as only 35% of calls bot today, lightest percent in 3 weeks"
CV - a picture for you to use in the future:
http://twitpic.com/1v9qkz
One thing is for certain after today...there is no "third of third" developing down. We may still be in some kind of larger degree wave-4 (beginning on 5/25) that leads to a fifth extension off the highs. But, at this point, those EWers with "third of third" setups are definitely incorrect.
I still like my abc-x-abc count down from the highs. I'm praying that we be a b-wave instead of the x-wave so that we get a better level to sell. It would feel orgasmic to be able to sell 1150s again.
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