Morning Audibles 6.11.10 Let's Look At This From a "Mission" Standpoint

I gotta admit... It's as confusing to CV as it is to anyone else what these charts look like right now...


The whole scenario reminds me of the scene in Apollo XIII when the oxygen tanks of the spacecraft exploded... There was entire chaos, but the crew of the space module and Gene Kranz (Flight Director at NASA's Mission Control in Houston - & whose character was played by the outstanding actor Ed Harris in the movie Apollo XIII), had to get an entire working team focused on the task of bringing the three astronauts (Jim Lovell, Ken Mattingly, & Fred Haise) back to Earth safely...


Gene Kranz

Decorated - PRESIDENTIAL MEDAL OF FREEDOM


I'm going to start by making some of you PHD's out there do your own homework and research the various EW scenarios that Andy T has been talking about on his "Sunday Evening Post" offerings (specifically - slide 5 from this past Sunday, June 6th)...


You don't have to be a "waver" to understand the diagram... It simply outlines a potential scenario (which can subsequently be NEGATED by a different set of outcomes)... There are OTHER scenarios, but they all follow rules... It's a process of ELIMINATION...


Despite my "joking around", CV is the pragmatic type... When things get serious, I like to LOOK AT THINGS FROM A MISSION STANDPOINT (like Mr. Krantz)... I want to first eliminate what's not working, and then assign probabilities to WHAT IS working...


"Let's work the problem people... Let's not make things worse by guessing"


Here are a few points that are CERTAIN... (SPX wise)


- 1140 is a bad number that the market (or TPTB) are trying to avoid
- Equity BULLS need to do a lot of work to reclaim a lot of technical damage done to the market during the month of May
- Presently, there are a number of different RESISTANCE levels overhead... There is, of course, the "Wanger Magical Mystical Number" that every fund manager, central banker, and sovereign leader is quaking in their boots over, 1097 (jk)... Beyond that:
- chart gap in the 11-teens
- some technical levels in the 1120's
- 1150 is a biggie
- 1173 would invalidate many wave scenarios


Basically, there are enough "scenarios" to boggle ones mind at the moment... But the bottom line is this... It's a more COMPLEX gauntlet for BULLS to navigate (if they hope to extend the rally from the March '09 lows), than what the BEARS might have to suffer... Recently, gains have been fought for "tooth & nail" or by outright market intervention (whereas SELL OFFS come along rather easily)...


Notwithstanding, If your inclination is to GO SHORT this market, doing so WILLY NILLY could be hazardous to your nether regions (depending on your entry point, your risk profile, or your tolerance for pain)... 


Therefore, I'm going to present this SHORT TERM chart to perhaps serve as a guide to short term ENTRY POINTS (and/or positions to "flee from)... This is a 10 minute chart on the SPX for the past 20 days... Some of it is annotated, but I'll bullet point some of those thoughts in text as well...




- In the past 20 days, CV notes MANY breaks of the 200SMA have occurred in "overnight" trading... While I could ask the simple question "WHY"?... The answer to that question ought to be obvious to anyone who DOESN'T work for CNBC, Bloomberg, the Fed, or the Obama Administration...


- Note the (RSI) waves... The extreme "overbought" or "oversold" readings came either on a sharp break to the other side of the SMA, or otherwise as an EWI peak was being established...


- The DEVIATIONS are also of interest... While we've had OVERSOLD amplitude deviations, the largest OVERBOUGHT deviation came at only 1/3rd the amplitude of the weaker side... This may or may not say anything, but it's certainly something to FACTOR IN (especially considering that there's a little room to spare on the UPSIDE of the RSI at the moment)...


- The potential TARGET of upside (potentially the 1110-1120 area) happens to be an area of interest to "wavers"... It should also be of note that the last time the SPX traded at those levels (7 days ago), the RSI hit a PEAK... Therefore, EXCEEDING those levels with a lower RSI would generate bearish divergence...


- On the other side of the equation... The next cross to the downside of that 200SMA may portend doom... Furthermore, based on recent pattern, those "crosses" may happen overnight (so be careful of your positions going to bed at night)...


Things are already interesting... And they're about to get MORE INTERESTING...


Come to think of it... While we're working on PROBLEMS... Why don't we get this guy...



"Look Americans, this is sand, and we don't like tar blobs "washing-TON" up on it on our beaches... So I'm here before you, to look authoritative, and make promises to KICK SOME ASS... Please now, go back to your "Dancing With The Stars Episodes & remember "I INHERITED THIS PROBLEM"... Sooner or later I'll get to that "Hope & Change" crap you bought into..."


Instead of just posing for foto-ops...


To call someone like this guy...




Or please, at least someone like him that has either RUN A DAIRY QUEEN before (or "something" else even mildly managerial in nature)... & hopefully DIDN'T go to Harvard!



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CV said...

@McF

Ironically... None of that really "scares" me...

Not that it won't SUCK (and suck for a lot of people)...

And I agree that ECONOMIC COLLAPSE is the event that brings about those types of individuals and what they usher in... It has happened time and time again throughout history...

But oddly... I'll know how to survive it... I know I have those instincts...

Unless, of course, at some point in the game I find myself facing the working end of a soviet AK-47... :-)

But if that's where it's destined to end for me... So be it...

I've lived many lives and died many deaths already... I doubt this will be any worse or any better than any of the previous ones...

Anonymous said...

last post-

DL-

hmmmm . . .

I didn't see it that way- Tom Hanks loved his job in the movie- everything was going along swimmingly-

after being marooned on the island- and being returned to civilization-

he realized how everyone took the ease of their lives for granted- and felt that he no longer fit in w/ the larger society- thus at the end of the movie- at the cross roads not knowing which way to go-

that was my take anyway- obviously anyone can have their own interpretation-

out for now

karen said...

DL, actually a headache is a very rare occurrence for me.. you missed the beginning of the thread (cuz you reposted that businessweek bear article!) but I had very little sleep last night. i hope i learned a lesson, however.. never check your email at 3 AM.

McFearless said...

DL,

going with the flow (which is down) before a Magic Monday would have you eating some losses, so I think I'll pass on that for now.

CV said...

@ahab

Oh he knew where to go in the end...

Straight down the road to Bettina's house for some "bada bing" :-)

McFearless said...

I get headaches about 4 days a week, bad ones. I don't even want to know how many excedrin migraine's I've eaten in the last few years.

arbitrage789 said...

"never check your email at 3 AM"

I'm going to write that down so I don't forget.

arbitrage789 said...

McF,

I you do actually get migraine headaches, there are much better drugs out there than Excedrin.

karen said...

cv, "I've lived many lives and died many deaths already..." you sound like the older greek gentleman i had dinner with the other night! He's in his seventies.. I think i found out more about him that evening than his long time friends knew !

Anonymous said...

Well, right now, in India, "I Am Legend" playing on HBO.

Prashant

karen said...

I-Man and I are gonna win on this day, again.. no worries. Just don't bet with us : )

McFearless said...

you know off the top of my head, one of the other things that supports Andy's abc x abc count is that there is a truncated fifth wave on the impulsive count.....I'm trying to look for examples of big declines that started with a truncated fifth....I'm not sure that's how it's ever happened so another strike against the impulse count.

McFearless said...

I love that movie I Am Legend, always get stuck watching that if it's on tv.

McFearless said...

DL,

What do you take? The excedrin helps but never gets rid of the headaches I get....

CV said...

@DL

LOL - Yeah, write that down so you don't forget!

On that subject - trying to be helpful on things that you CAN do to improve your life...

AMAZING SIMPLE HOME REMEDIES: (THESE REALLY WORK!! I checked this out on Snopes and it’s for real!)

1. AVOID CUTTING YOURSELF WHEN SLICING VEGETABLES BY GETTING SOMEONE ELSE TO HOLD THE VEGETABLES WHILE YOU CHOP.

2. AVOID ARGUMENTS WITH THE FEMALES ABOUT LIFTING THE TOILET SEAT BY USING THE SINK.

3. FOR HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE SUFFERERS ~ SIMPLY CUT YOURSELF AND BLEED FOR A FEW MINUTES, THUS REDUCING THE PRESSURE ON YOUR VEINS. REMEMBER TO USE A TIMER.

4. A MOUSE TRAP PLACED ON TOP OF YOUR ALARM CLOCK WILL PREVENT YOU FROM ROLLING OVER AND GOING BACK TO SLEEP AFTER YOU HIT THE SNOOZE BUTTON.

5. IF YOU HAVE A BAD COUGH, TAKE A LARGE DOSE OF LAXATIVES. THEN YOU'LL BE AFRAID TO COUGH.

6. YOU ONLY NEED TWO TOOLS IN LIFE - WD-40 AND DUCT TAPE. IF IT DOESN'T MOVE AND SHOULD, USE THE WD-40. IF IT SHOULDN'T MOVE AND DOES, USE THE DUCT TAPE.

7.. IF YOU CAN'T FIX IT WITH A HAMMER, YOU'VE GOT AN ELECTRICAL PROBLEM.

arbitrage789 said...

McF @ 1:49

I actually never get headaches (not that I don't have OTHER problems).

But there are some very powerful and effective medications out there for migraines... but they require a prescription.

McFearless said...

I'll just say, I wouldnt' want to be a big dollar long right now.

McFearless said...

I haven't been to the dr. in a couple years, maybe next time I go in I'll ask for something...if it doesn't make me sick to my stomach I've gotten pretty used to just dealing with them, I haven't had a really bad one in a couple of weeks.

arbitrage789 said...

McFearless,


Imitrex works pretty well, from what I hear.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumatriptan

karen said...

ben, you've got to be kidding at 1:51.. uup was a great buy at 25.46.. at least on my chart !!! not enough upside and volume in that for me though, laughing.

i think i'll take an aleve or two and see if that doesn't uncloud my head..

I-Man said...

Ganja.

CV said...

@McF

When you feel a migrane coming on...

Take a 16 pound sledge hammer and drop it on your big toe...

Instant cure!

karen said...

cv, i'm sorry.. you are hilarious !!!

CV said...

@karen

That remedy works for other ailments as well...

It's pretty universal... :-)

McFearless said...

but karen, we were buying UUP when the DX was at 74.50, it's not a great buy up here, not saying there isn't more upside, but it's likely limited, I'm still a big time dollar bull, but I don't want to be in there right now, too crowded, too obvious.

"Imitrex"

sounds like a place to work on Office Space


and yeah, ganja is the ultimate headache cure...

McFearless said...

but thanks though DL re: Imitrex.

McFearless said...

C,

that list up there is funny, the WD-40/Duct Tape tip is hilarious.

karen said...

uh-oh.. just received this in my inbox: "Basically, citizens of each US state are responsible not only for the debt burdens of their states and localities, but they're also responsible for their proportionate share of the federal debt. As you'll see, the combination of the two produces debt ratios far in excess of those of the PIIGS." The person, uncited, goes on to make their case.. i will ask the sender for the source.

I-Man said...

K,

Just found out I'm going to be in San Clem at the end of August. Mrs I's best friend is having us down to stay at her folks beach house for a few days. Never been to socal before, so I'm looking forward to spending time on a Pacific beach that doesnt feature 50 degree water in the heat of summer.

CV said...

I agree with McF on Bucky...

However - I wouldn't rule out one last thrust in the dollar if the Eur-Usd does a VERY FAST trip to 1.15...

By VERY FAST, I mean VERY FAST... Like in conjunction with the type of "Wave 5" that Andy has on his radar screen...

But in that case, I'd rather just be short equities, and wait to buy the Euro at those levels (for a bit)...

karen said...

Ben, the only case i have to support a rising dollar is an short squeeze of epic proportions if debt is ever actually called in;.

Did we not know this was coming???

BP set to defer payment of second-quarter dividend: Times of London

CV said...

@karen (2:02)

People may criticize me as they wish... But that's much of the reason for being in West Virginia...

Charles Town Races & Slots is right down the road...

This place does NOT have any heavy debt load to speak of and is, FRANKLY, a cash cow...

CV said...

Prechter was just on TV yesterday saying to BUY THE EURO...

Day after Jim Rogers said the same...

Of course, Goldman Sachs has it at 1.15...

karen said...

okay, here is the source:

http://www.minyanville.com/businessmarkets/articles/piigs-europe-debt-eurozone-greece-canada/6/4/2010/id/28598

McFearless said...

"they're also responsible for their proportionate share of the federal debt."


oh man....and so it begins....that's an interesting line there in light of the big post I just made.

Maybe the dollar blows off here to a top, but is the probability way on your side right now to make good money on dollar speculation, or are you better off sitting to the side?

I caught a huge portion of this move up in the dollar so I'm inclined to sit it out until a new entry.

McFearless said...

no impact yet on BP stock...on the public charts under BP I don't even see mention of that headline....

karen said...

I-Man, I am so excited! I hope you will come over with the I-Baby and I-Wife! I wonder if the parents' house is within walking distance of mine.. I wouldn't be surprised.. six degrees of separation !!

McFearless said...

I'm not about to jump into BP, but.... that is basically what a stock is supposed to look like at the bottom in a lot of ways:

1. As Nic pointed out, huge retrace of roughly the last two decades price appreciation.
2. A big fat div coupled with a super low p/e
3. All bad news

arbitrage789 said...

If we do get a significant rally in the Euro, it would be difficult for me to see a concommitant decline in SPX.

karen said...

ben, i think it is coming.. the reaction i mean.

arbitrage789 said...

One thing about BP, it's the largest company in the U.K.; the U.K. government certainly doesn't want to see the company fail.

And the U.K. is arguably the most important ally of the U.S.

A deal is going to get made, one way or another.

mcHAPPY said...

Prechter on CNBC clip.

Prechter and ROgers are two of my biggest finance crushes, however, both are always early to the party. In Prechter's defense though, his bottoms occur much faster than his tops.

I would be inclined to think one more push lower. Tying this in with some wave counts, that 4th in to an extended 5th is looking more and more tempting.

I think MOnday may be the worse day ever to be long but as always we'll see.

The fact we cannot get much going here must be concerning for the bulls. The fourth wave count would be looking REALLY good with a small push lower (no lower than 1077/78 - or to be exact 1077.74) and a last push higher in to Monday.

If this plays out I may push my final third on the table.

McFearless said...

does anyone else find this whole Alvin Greene thing very strange?

I-Man said...

Baby-I will be at home with his grandparents, allowing his parents to enjoy some time off...

But sure, that would be fun.

I'll keep you posted.

Apparently the house is right on the beach. Sounds pretty nice.


Side note-

I see the Market has finally come around to its senses...

McFearless said...

DL,

re: Euro/SPX

another reason i think the corrective count may be the best for stocks, would make more sense in light of what appears about to occur in the currencies, a dollar drop and a move in the S&P to 1120-1150

arbitrage789 said...

McF @ 2:19

I say, 1150 by July 15th.

CV said...

@DL (2:15)

That's exactly what I'm thinking...

I've been saying this all week...

I think we get a FLASH CRASH (again)... But it could come from a slightly higher level... Perhaps the 1110-1120 zone...

The crash takes us down to around 1000...

Euro hits bottom... Dollar fades... Equities re-rally...

That's the "Summer of 2010"...

Party on!

By August, the rally takes it back up to 1150...

Then the market rolls over FOR REAL... 800's city by October...

QE2

Rally into year end...

McFearless said...

crazy McHap, the fourth to extended fifth or andy's B wave are both very strong cases....niether one is bullish, just different near term results.

I-Man said...

Setting up a new office, buying a computer, getting new healthcare, finding a new chart source...

Is very much a pain in the ass, btw.

I'll be a lot more excited to start trading again when I actually sit down to trade!

mcHAPPY said...

I wrote the above pretty quick... a couple of clarifications:

1) worst monday ever was in 1987 but this would sting as well.

2) one more push lower - in stocks - tying in with the idea of an extended 5th wave 'crash'.

3)

McFearless said...

are we breaking out of another triangle here....to the downsizzle?

karen said...

I-Man, there are very few houses on the beach in San Clemente because we are on a bluff with varying size canyons running down to the ocean.. I'm sure you will be very close to me.. surely walking distance on the beach.. if not the street! i'm excited!

I-Man said...

Downsizzle my nizzle...

arbitrage789 said...

CV @ 2:20

"Flash crashes" are pretty rare. I wouldn't expect to see lightning strike again so soon.

I-Man said...

K-
Drop me an email at dread, and I'll give you their name, you might know them if you've lived there awhile.

arbitrage789 said...

I-Man @ 2:21

Sounds like you got a big cash injection from somewhere.

I-Man said...

DL,

Intraday waterfall events, like the flash crash, are indicative of a larger systemic failure imo...

Only to be replicated shortly by corresponding moves in the daily, weekly, and monthly timeframes.

If you follow my fractal'ed line of thought...

Side note:

Anyone thought of naming a trading blog "Fractal Rock"?

:)

arbitrage789 said...

A "flash crash" won't happen if a lot of people are expecting it.

McFearless said...

so, some of you currency buff's, RP says he likes Swiss Franc. Thoughts?

Also, hilarious one of his preconditions for stock bottom:

Maybe we need to get to 20% incumbents in office.

wouldn't that be a dream.

I-Man said...

But a plain old vanilla "crash"... who's expecting that?

Besides some dude named Prechter, and some obscure TA folks...

CV said...

@DL (2:23)

That's exactly why I like the idea...

karen said...

CV @ 2:29.. that thot gave me shivers.. so true!

CV said...

@DL

Oh yeah, I forgot... You're the type that thinks Bernanke is in control of everything and that couldn't possibly happen...

Hank and his bazooka and all...

McFearless said...

I could get down with Fractal Rock.

I-Man said...

I knew you would say that, Benjamin.

I-Man said...

That show never got old for some reason...

Still fascinates me to this day.

CV said...

Look...

All it will take is for us to wake up one morning and find out a hedge fund in Europe has blown up and we'll be at 1000 in no time...

At that point, for now, the WAVERS and technicians would be satisfied that the "correction" from 1220 was deep enough...

They'd let it rise until the next EVENT RISK scenario came along...

CV said...

@DL

Who said A LOT OF PEOPLE are expecting it?

Apparently I'm the only one (and maybe karen)...

I-Man said...

@ Leftback and Nic

Can you please explain this to I?

"The "Fraggle Rock Theme" reached number 33 in the British music charts during the phenomenon.[3]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraggle_Rock

72bat said...

wassup with spx? yahoo, google, finviz all stuck at 2:19 pm. trading halted? servers down?

arbitrage789 said...

CV @ 2:31

I think you're overstating the case just a bit. But I do lean towards the view that we won't get a 20+% correction within the next 12 months.

I-Man said...

CV @ 2:35

Well, Lil Wayne did tell me the other night that we'd hit 920 in July...

"Thats how you let the beat build..."

mcHAPPY said...

Jim Henson was a genious (obviously). The Muppets gets all the glory but mcHAPPY prefers Fractal Rock for sure.

I-Man said...

@ 72

Nah, no halt, thats just where we gapped down kinda hard on the 1min chart...

72bat said...

ok finviz now updating after 12 point drop, but yahoo and goog still stuck at 2:19

mcHAPPY said...

Builds of 100-150 takes weeks to unfold.

Drops of 100-150 takes hours/days to unfold.

karen said...

I-Man, btw, i did send you an email..

CV said...

@DL

Get the VIX to close a month (or a WEEK - for that matter) under 24...

Then I'll begin to align myself towards your "skippty-do-dah", walking along picking daisies along the way attitude...

Sorry!... Not trying to be overly facetious there...

I'm not trying to criticize your POV... Instead, I'm trying to state mine as colorfully as possible...

Volatility is BACK...

And because of that... ANYTHING is possible...

72bat said...

today is the day that the new 10%/5 min rule for selcted spx stocks was to go into effect, right? which stocks are the "selected" ones?

McFearless said...

as for lightning striking twice, we are in a lightning bolt recovery, left hand translated....lol.

McFearless said...

Oh yes, anyone from our age group watched some Fraggle rock at one point or another

karen said...

okay.. nothing can interfere with this, nothing.

NEW YORK (AP) -- The Dow Jones industrial average is headed for its first winning week in a month. Stocks were mixed Friday following an early slump on poor retail sales figures but didn't fall enough to offset Thursday's big rally.

trading diary said...

Re: yahoo google tick halt.
It might be that exchange is testing the newly installed circuit brake? But it shows gap down on marketwatch.

I-Man said...

Ben, read that wiki entry next time you have some spare time...

Social allegory.

arbitrage789 said...

CV @ 2:41

"your skippity-do-dah, walking-along-picking- daisies-along-the-way attitude"

* * * * * * * * * * * *

You're right! Who could possibly see that as facetious?

McFearless said...

well, I see I'm off to a bangin start on Fantasy World Cup....0 fur 1

Nic said...

I am trying to decide what I like to buy vs the USD McF and I like the Aussie, Swiss Franc, Norwegian Krone.

trading diary said...

hi karen,
I am with you on the "really" short side. What's your "throwing towel" level, say on spx?

thanks!

Nic said...

AUD cos China news is good (for now)
Swiss cos low debt and they can print money
NOK cos they have NO debt and can print money

mcHAPPY said...

Ben,

Your triangle comment above.... which way were you expecting it to go?

Triangles are definitely a weakness of mine right now. I could make a case for either.

karen said...

really, my 2:44 is important.. bulls and bears alike probably cannot fathom a 4th week down.

CV said...

@DL

In fact... I think the banks WANT it to happen... It's time for chaos to ensue again...

Look... 2009 they all had to do the song and dance... They had to appear contrite that they were so grateful that TARP money came in and were diligent about paying it back...

Yada Yada Yada crap...

Meanwhile - Obama gets his feet wet, indices rise, money gets spent, everyone gets complacent again...

Meanwhile - the banks start growing fangs again...

At this point it's back to being a CASINO again...

They've been successful with their lobbies in stomping down financial reform... It's time to just JERK the markets around wildly again...

Some will win... Some will lose... In the end, there will be yet a GREATER cost to bail everything out...

Oh! and you say... "No way, people won't stand for it"... Teapartiers and all...

HA!

Wrong...

Why? Because now the BAILOUT isn't bailing out GM, or AIG, or Fannie or Freddy... NOW you need to bail out GOVERNMENTS...

People that were outraged with the thought that they were bailing out banksters will be less angry when the bailout money, they are told, is the only thing keeping their Social Security check coming to them...

The banksters know this...

One more round for the house... (Coming this fall)...

arbitrage789 said...

NOK has oil, too.

arbitrage789 said...

CV @ 2:50

The day of reckoning will be put off a little longer.

karen said...

trading diary, my top, of course, if you've been following along here for very long.. that would be that band of resistance in the 1100-1105 area. actually, that would only hurt.. surpassing 1150 would mean 1200+..

CV said...

@Nic

Swissy

arbitrage789 said...

Karen's top now has a band of resistance.

Interesting.

CV said...

@Nic

If you didn't catch it... Over at ZH, they had a kind of a nice write-up on CHF (with some interesting comments)...

arbitrage789 said...

Swissy.... not to be confused with wissy.

trading diary said...

Thanks karen for your reply. It seems that we really are in the same boat:I have a mental stop at 200SMA (1107 now) which it has failed to broken several times so far.

karen said...

CHICAGO (MarketWatch) -- Blockbuster Inc. is negotiating with its bondholders for a loan package that would help it operate while in bankruptcy, according to a press report.

The Wall Street Journal, citing unnamed sources, reported Friday that the video rental chain is looking for $150 million in debtor-in-possession financing. Blockbuster (BBI) is currently $900 million in the hole and may well be forced to seek Chapter 11 protection from its creditors

AmenRa said...

Well $ VOL NET is negative for SPX and NYSE, positive for NASDAQ (for now).

NYSE TRIN hasn't gotten below 1.20 for most of the day.

Nic said...

Thanks CV will go and look now. CHF needs to stop trying to stay cheap vs euro, then it will fly.

CV said...

@DL

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....

You're TOTALLY missing my point...

It WON'T be put off because THE BANKS ACTUALLY WANT THE MARKETS TO CRASH RIGHT NOW...

They only want it to happen at a time when all is well and good and that people don't believe it's going to happen...

So it will happen on some blue day (when everyone is looking at the pretty birds)... But!... It will be bought right back up again...

So over a 3 month average, you're right... INDICES will stay roughly the same...

But there will be intermittent turmoil... (VIX sustained above 25 - probably above 30)...

Two more big dips coming this year...

But I wouldn't be surprised to see the indices where they are now on January 1st, 2011...

karen said...

i would be quite remiss if i didn't point out the h&s on the 10 min $compq i just noted..

Mannwich said...

@karen: Just rented a movie at Blockbuster for tonight. They're back to charging late fees again. I guess that no late fees strategy didn't work! They seem to do OK in their neighborhood and for us the location is very convenient but they don't seem very well run. I amazed at how long these zombie companies can go on.

McFearless said...

mcHappy, the way it was taking shape I didn't know what side it was going to break, it could have been within a 4 or the b wave....and nothing happened anyway, lol.

at this stage I dont' really think it matters how long you have been counting, have some shorts on and otherwise keep a lot of powder dry....

I was an idiot for messing around short yesterday, I got really lucky, I deserved to lose on that one.

karen said...

this should be illegal: Fitch Ratings became the second ratings agency to downgrade Illinois's general obligation bond rating this week, saying the state's government hasn't demonstrated the willingness to take action during the fiscal crisis to restructure its budget to achieve balance.

arbitrage789 said...

CV,

Dip in September.

McFearless said...

I don't see how Blockbuster and the like are going to stay in business for another few years...to easy to get movies other ways now without due dates/late fees, etc.

I'm surprised too they've lasted this long. We have Hollywood Video around here as well.

arbitrage789 said...

"I'm amazed at how long these zombie companies can go on"

My sentiment as well.

McFearless said...

Nic,

thanks for the thoughts on the currencies, I've never traded anything but the dollar...thanks again.

72bat said...

"Karen's top now has a band of resistance"
her new gucci suit? (self-awarded yellow card)

72bat said...

re blockbuster, see nflx

CV said...

@Nic

Actually, I just realized you may not find what I was referring to...

This article is less TECHNICAL in nature, but ads some sociological insights...

It's kind of basic, but I think it brought out some great ideas...

Here's the link...

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-summer-2010

Mannwich said...

Exactly 72bat, and you would think that letting these zombie companies go underis actually BETTER for the economy since it clears the deadwood away and allows for other more prosperous, better run companies to fill the void.

McFearless said...

i could see how Hollywood Video and Blockbuster going under would probably send SRS down about 15% or something insane....that 'makes sense' in our GIB world.

Enter Bill Ackman (sans tears)

mcHAPPY said...

Here is something I have not thought of and it appears to be solid from an EW perspective (not sure if Andy has this one or not and not sure if this has been said before):

1040.78 was the end of a 3

1105.67 was the top of a 4

now in a 5th wave with:

i = 1105.67-1042.17
ii = 1042.17-????

If the above is accurate and i is the first of 5th down then:

.618 retracement is 1081.43
.786 retracement is 1092.08

I'm going to think about this. This makes the most sense of anything I've thought of yet.

Also given possibility of 5th wave extension, wave 1 was 63.5 and that sets some pretty distant lower lows to reach a bottom.

McFearless said...

we watched The Road last weekend. Anyone seen that?

McFearless said...

Mchappy,

if there is a fifth down still, it's going to be a big one man... like Andy keeps saying "it will feel like a crash"....indeed, and not a flash crash.

I just want a deep retrace either a B wave or a larger wave 2 so we have some really nice levels to short....

Mannwich said...

Yes, ben. Saw it in the theater last year. I thought it was great. Definitely had to be in the "right" mood to see it though. Very powerful and well done.

CV said...

@McF

I've been wanting to see that...

Tho I hear it's pretty depressing...

karen said...

pucci !! bat, not gucci !!

CV said...

@Manny

Yeah, I remember hearing you say you and your wife went to see that...

McFearless said...

it was depressing, but overall pretty good. The main thing I didn't like was the whole move was so dark (not the message, the actual picture)...I don't like movies like that, hard on the eyes and I'm looking at a computer screen 12-14 hours a day.

mcHAPPY said...

From an hourly perspective there might be some trouble with EW principles but on a daily close, it is all good. Lowest close back in 'flash crash' wave 1 was 1110.88.

I'm going to go back through Andy's stuff in a bit. Have to run for a few.

72bat said...

gucci, pucci, smucci! it was a sweet suit, the tunic not so much.

CV said...

@karen

Pucci... Some never learn...

Man - When I lived in Italy, Both the Pucci & Gucci outlets were right next door at the outlet center off the A1 in Cilege (outside Firenze)...

My girlfriend always spent more time in the Pucci store...

McFearless said...

We saw avatar in the theatre, but I think going out to movies is a total rip-off though.

I got a blue-ray player for the holidays from the in-laws and I'm such a cheap ass I won't set it up b/c those blue ray discs cost a fortune.

72bat said...

the road. though my kiddoh and i told each other we wanted to go see the film after reading the book, neither of us could bring ourselves to do so when it was released. we just couldn't imagine how shitty we'd feel upon coming out of the theater.

Nic said...

Last Days of Lehman made for TV movie:
http://www.hedgeanalyst.com/2010/06/blog-post_11.html

V dramatic (tongue in cheek)

CV said...

@72bat

I kno right... I definitely want to see it... But after all this time, I still haven't been able to get into that dark place that would make me want to see it...

CV isn't ALL THAT gloomy... Despite my rants...

McFearless said...

yeah, it's def. not the uplifting type of flic

CV said...

@Nic

Did you see my (3:09) post?

karen said...

A fun read: Big Tease is Back!

The rally Thursday got the Dow back over 10K, but volume was anemic, suggesting investors have gone to the sidelines. Indeed, it is now clear that the "buy the dips" mentality is leaving the retail investor, who might rather be "selling the blips" (see the red trend dropping in the first chart).

We have been following three scenarios for stocks:

Summer Rally: new highs!
Big Tease: after a dip, back to Sp1150!
June Swoon: Dow9K!

more: http://yelnick.typepad.com/yelnick/

72bat said...

whereas, coming out of avatar in a 3-d imax theater, it was a film we swore nevver to see in anything BUT 3-d imax. other worldly.

72bat said...

noc -
"CHF needs to stop trying to stay cheap vs euro, then it will fly."
in your view, what would make that happen? when?

CV said...

@karen

CV is sticking closely to the concept outlayed in the chart on this thread today...

Coupled with Andy T's abc-x-abc scenario...

Until that's no longer valid...

72bat said...

sorry nic, not noc

CV said...

@72bat

You should read the article I linked up (3:09)...

From my POV the phenomenon is this...

BIG MONEY is running into CHF right now... But not really running INTO as much as "running away from" (others)...

But the Swiss National Bank has to try and act in a way to not let that get out of control...

karen said...

seriously, i expect the market to not make me happy this afternoon while simultaneously expecting the unexpected.

CV said...

@karen

That's not asking a lot...

Sounds like "being in a relationship" to CV... :-)

CV said...

If LB were here he'd say one simple thing...

"Everyone is back in the Hamptons, on Friday, or in a pub watching World Cup"...

Why all the fuss?

CV said...

In fact...

CV would have high tailed it out to the farm about 4 hours ago but I'm stuck here because I have to sub a class tomorrow morning...

McFearless said...

oh boy, ramp job coming here into the close? on no volume I'm sure.

mcHAPPY said...

I feel like Mel Gibson in Braveheart at the end... "FREEDOM!"

This will not be the capitulation of the bears as the cold steel is now firmly applied.

This will be the bears true ending.

mcHAPPY said...

..... sugar! ..... <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcoVxbutl8g&feature=fvw> ending. </a>

I-Man said...

Such natural price movement...

mcHAPPY said...

third time a charm?

ending

mcHAPPY said...

Ben,

I think your triange was dead on... to the upside. Looked like a contacting or a running triangle. I would guess more likely a running because the B finished above (albeit slightly) the end of the previous push up.

karen said...

before you all get so joyous and bullish.. do check the $wlsh candle formed today.. thanks for the happy ending, happy : )

72bat said...

cv -
just finished reading it. took me back to my former idyll speculations about belize, costa rica, chile. i have visions of being a "house arrest" prisoner, unable to get out when tshtf.

McFearless said...

I was counting a running McHap....

packing it in, we'll see what monday brings....

McFearless said...

look at it go, lol.

Mannwich said...

Wow, the bull is back baby, just in time for da weekend! I had a feeling there would be plenty of other opportunities to get short. This is a super slo mo fiasco.

I-Man said...

This is when it gets interesting...

mcHAPPY said...

Karen,

I think Monday will be very happy for bears.

AmenRa said...

Ben

Trying to recover last Fridays open/high. Actually feels like something very bad is in the works for the weekend.

72bat said...

so mchap, going all in with the last 3rd?
can't bring myself to re-enter spxu going into the weekend. momo/miracle mondays and all that.

CV said...

@72bat

You kno...

I enjoyed reading thru the comment section on that...

To explain...

CV doesn't like the idea of "protectionism" and "isolation"... So basically - I DO NOT align myself with all of those fellows whose ideas it is to RUN FROM a conflict...

I don't want to RUN FROM ANYTHING...

Instead, I want to FACE IT... HEAD ON... But the best way to FACE SOMETHING is to be prepared for "scenarios"...

That's why I have stocked up on provisions...

I'm all for REBUILDING... if, and after TSHTF... But it's hard to play that role if the incident itself totally devastates you...

If you understand what I'm saying...

McFearless said...

Ra,

I love this action right now....next week may provide a fantastic entry for short based on what is playing out here.

AmenRa said...

With the Trin staying above 1.20 all day indicates major selling even though the market is higher.

I-Man said...

Somebody slap me, but based off the downtrend line on the daily chart, the resistance from that will land at exactly 1097 on Monday...

CV said...

@72bat @mcHappy

The way it charts for CV... is that Monday will bring AT LEAST a "Johnny Hour"...

after that?

mcHAPPY said...

bat,

That is a good question. I think I might stay out on the off chance we are actually in an A-B-C and we hit 1110's or 1120's. Either way - the market goes down. A break of 1077 would be the 4th wave scenario in my opinion. A break of 1105.67 is the C wave.

I-Man said...

I know Ra!

I didnt see the stats, but I can feel the distribution...

Anonymous said...

Market and France game both super slo-mo....

... yawn....

72bat said...

cv -
those were my visions back in the day.
now i have progeny who i'd not want to leave behind to fend on her own should tshtf.
not near as prepared as you, but looking at properties in the surrounding area.
her maternal grandpa though has a 100+ acres prime cropland and lotsa muzzle-loaders. not that i'd be welcome there.

CV said...

@McF (3:54)

x1000

McFearless said...

I'm guessing buy climaxes (disrtribution) are huge today....johnny likes to buy after days like yesterday.

72bat said...

if during johnny hour on monday it blows by karen's top (and the pucci), and takes out the gap at 1115, i'll start building a new position

CV said...

@72

I understand... FAMILY comes first...

McFearless said...

hey look at that, couple people coming to Prechter and Fabers defense over at TBP on that bear article thread and none of them are ME.

Sweet.

We gotta get David Singer over here....

Nic said...

Sorry back now
thanks for the link CV
Bat the SnB are going to have spent so much money intervening in the fx market they aren't going to have a choice soon. It is like a finger in a dam.

karen said...

i won't say anything about the fact the spx didn't snare 1093, promise.

CV said...

@Ra

Despite the distribution...

That's NOT a bearish daily candle... OR Weekly candle...

No matter how anybody wants to package it up...

karen said...

Ben, i read Singer's comments earlier.. fun!

72bat said...

for how long can the snb parcel out its reserves until the dam just gives way. at the current rate...?

CV said...

Singer & I-Man...

penmanship DE LUXE :-)

CV said...

@McF

"I'm guessing buy climaxes (disrtribution) are huge today....johnny likes to buy after days like yesterday.

I think CV is going to start calling Bob Doll "Johnny"...

He was all over the airwaves today saying "Stocks are Cheap"... LMAO

karen said...

i just noticed something.. spy candle filled the gap from June 3 -4.. that was a no brainer! hope i learned another lesson this week. i'm gonna write that down.

CV said...

Maybe he meant

"CHEEP"

McFearless said...

that douche always says that, he's an idiot, remember when I-man was talking yesterday about the big banks weeding out the thinkers.

Use Bob Doll as exhibit A.

CV said...

@karen

Look on the bright side...

If we get to 1120, 1130, or 1150...

It'll be a WET DREAM on the short side... :-)

I-Man said...

Singer's mi bredren, top notch, that breddah.

I-Man said...

I'm going to go eat some damn beans, peas, and rice and forget this day ever happened.

One love rastas,
-I

CV said...

@McF (4:10)

Yeah... Besides the US Government... Blackrock will be next in line for a bailout...

Followed by PIMPCO...

McFearless said...

C,

you are right, that candle for this week isn't bearish, but what's more important, May's monthly candle or this week's candle....

mcHAPPY said...

THIS IS PRICELESS!

The May 25th (1040.78) low came in before 10am.

The May 26th high (1090.75) came in before 11am.

The May 26th low (1065) came in just before 4pm.

THe May 27th high (1103) came in just before 4pm.

The June 1st low (1069) came in just before 4pm.

The June 3rd high (1105) came in just before 10am.

The June 4th low (1060) came just before 4pm.

The June 8th low (1042) coming from June 3rd was made just after 11am.

THe June 9th high (1077) was made just before noon.

The June 9th low (1052) was made just before 4pm.

The June 10th high (1087) was made just before 4pm and a run up in to 11am (1083) preceded it with 1072 in between.

Today's high was made just before 4pm (1092.25).

NOW ANY BULL OUT THERE.... TELL ME WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT?

Steve Grasso: No doubt we are going to by WEdnesday next week - heck golly gee, maybe even by Tuesday.

AND THAT IS WHY HE WON THE DOUCHE BAG OF THE YEAR AND THE WORST REPLY TO A DEFLATIONIST AWARDS.

McFearless said...

I've actually got quite a lot of confidence that PIMCO is going to turn out just fine through all of this, they will lose on the equity side, but that company more than all the others has taken advantage of the bear....the performance of the PIMCO Total Return fund given it's size and strategy is quite impressive.

mcHAPPY said...

Sorry folks, that number missing above was suppose to be 1250.

Jokes always suck when you mess up hte punchline.

McFearless said...

alright folks, I'm off, everyone have a good weekend.

can't wait til Muuuunday.

Anonymous said...

http://online.barrons.com/article/SB127611839930303563.html?mod=BOL_hpp_dc

"While households' wealth increased in the latest quarter, the main gains accrued to the upper brackets that own stocks and mutual funds. For the broader swath of Americans, for whom their home is their main source of wealth, the improvement came from the reduction in their mortgages, albeit in heretofore unheard-of methods. Carson points out that these loan reductions show up in the Fed's data with a significant lag of up to a year."

Anonymous said...

What's up with blogger. Since yesterday, I cannot read comments above 200 mark. Before that I could read comm. after 200. Weird.

Steve Grasso said...

You all are jealous of my mad skilz at trading.

72bat said...

hmmm -believe this is what i was getting at yesterday
"For the broader swath of Americans, for whom their home is their main source of wealth, the improvement came from the reduction in their mortgages, albeit in heretofore unheard-of methods." as in lose your house for which you overpaid, now worth less, but also lose the mortgage liability, net/net you are better off.

72bat said...

@ ben -
"I've actually got quite a lot of confidence that PIMCO is going to turn out just fine through all of this"
been trying to decide whether to put all the cash that has accumulated in my current 401(k) over the last 18 months into ptrax. certainly no other viable options in the plan at this time

Mannwich said...

This is worth a read.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/bps-mess-and-wall-streets/?hp

72bat said...

oops @ anonymous, but ben feel free to opine

AmenRa said...

CV

I'd be impressed with the weekly SPX candle if it had gapped down at the open. But this was the 2nd test of 1041. The 3rd may be the charm.

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