Morning Audibles 3.25.10 - Sobriety Checkpoint

"FUN"ding... As it turns out, isn't so much "fun" after all...



In recent months, Fed Chariman Ben Bernanke has been dropping hints that rates could go up later this year. In addition, the Federal Reserve, of late, has been reducing its purchases of mortgage-backed securities from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and has 'still' not said it will extend those purchases past the end of March.


Those purchases have kept interest rates artificially low for months. What's the takeaway here? A game of chicken, if you ask me. In anticipation of an end to those MBS purchases, by the FED, the yield curve has gotten increasingly wider. Despite the decision to extend the first-time homebuyer tax credit through April 30, 2010, recent months have brought an unexpected drop in pending home sales. This is unwelcome news for a government, and a Fed that were expecting those markets to "auto-correct" (not that anyone 'outside' the beltway ever expected that to happen anyway - but beltway insiders live in their own fantasyland). 


The takeaway is painfully obvious. That is, that the entire system still only exists on life support by whatever money the government goes into debt to spend to support it, and by the money that the Fed prints to monetize it. The Treasury Department, (trying it's best to fund spending on top of spending by this goverment), has found that there is little interest, of late, in rolling over short term debt for a measley .02 return. (in Bills). Treasury is therefore having to look farther up the curve to fund this insatiable appetite of spending (turns out Obama paying for everyones gas and mortgages is costlier than the former community organizer would have ever imagined). The bond market now seems set to turn this into a "game of chicken". They're basically saying, "let's see how much you want to pay to come play in our yard". Since the US government has already heaped on an amount of debt that it's not likely to be able to service, the idea of ratcheting up even only a few hundred basis points more seems out of the question. So 'something' has got to give.


All this comes at a time when Washington is going to have to start considering OTHER spending or 'stimulative' proposals as well (such as a JOBS BILL, aid to states and local governments who are insolvent [time to break out those blue and red maps again to see which areas are in MOST DIRE need], and probably yet another extension of unemployment benefits). You know, elections are coming up in the fall. They're on SOMEBODY's mind I'm sure.


There are not many good options here, but the simplest idea, of course, would be to tank the equity markets for a bit. A couple of weeks of this could chase enough "risk" assets into the safety of T-Bills so that the government could go on "extending & pretending" servicing its debt for a few months. At that point, I'm sure Bernanke would have to come out and announce another round of MBS purchases in the $600bln range, and perhaps another round of Bond purchases depending on how the roll over rates on short term bonds (which haven't looked so hot as of late) go. Here's a recent picture of the Capital Beltway if you haven't been around these parts in awhile.



With the problems in Europe putting the Euro on shaky ground, it would seem to me that now would be the perfect time to orchestrate this type of shell game...


- Blame the stock market correction on Europe and it's problems (& deflect from your own structural problems).
- Let the Euro find a new level
- When the Euro finds its new level, Bernanke can fire up the printing press again
- Commodities ought to rebound at that point (but need to take a deep hit in the process)
- Hopefully, if orchestrated correctly, you'll be able to keep the plaster on the walls until November. At that point, one of two results occur:
1. You win (because people are still fooled into thinking things are alright, or because now you've 'scared' them into relying on YOU for all their needs)
2. You lose (and whatever 'austerity' that comes from that, and the PAIN that goes with it can be blamed on the 'other guy' because the effects will happen on their watch).


I'm not saying that any of the above will happen (it may, it may not). I'm just presenting the most logical scenario (but as we know, "logic", "politics", & "capital markets" don't often collide in the same sentence).


So for now, CV is basically saying that this will only be a "garden variety" sobriety checkpoint.

You're doing it WRONG!
You're doing it RIGHT!

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karen said...

uup at 24.12.. you see that I-Man ?!

I-Man said...

Nope! been fixated on 1min SPY, looking for clues...

But I love it!

Leftback said...

Today is survivable. Yesterday would have been the killer blow to the trading testicles. Now, what about my small cap shorts? Another day of COLD STEEL would not be pleasant for LB.

Here comes Bucky by the way, making a run. We might take a dart at the miners selling off.

Mannwich said...

FXE dumpster diving.

karen said...

bruce, thanks for posting that blurb about cat, deere, etc.

Leftback said...

Miners lagging. The XLB has been weaker than SPY all day.

DL said...

"trading testicles".

Maybe you should try using a different organ.

Mannwich said...

Grabbed more TLT. Watching for falling knives.

I-Man said...

Just got my clue...

Kill it shorts.

Bruce in Tennessee said...

Karen:

Here at the salt mine, we are having higher costs discussed in our next monthly partners' meeting. Most of my partners let someone else do their investing, but they do keep a rather sharp eye on expenses.

Bruce in Tennessee said...

by the way, we ain't hiring...

Mannwich said...

Bounce baby (TLT), bounce.....

DL said...

Mannwich,

Rousted from your boredom yet?

Leftback said...

Manny, welcome to the wonderful world of govies.... I should leave now...

Mannwich said...

@DL: A little bit. Call me when we have a 2% down day or more though.

I-Man said...

Oh... someone's getting a little nervous I take it?

Those were interesting prints.

Anonymous said...

@mannwich

The trend is your friend.

I-Man said...

I think some of those algo's are a little confused about what to do here...

Leftback said...

The 3.91% really got them salivating in Chicago, then the Euro turned.

DL said...

Anon @ 2:02

Which trend... the 5-minute trend, the 24 hour trend, or the 30-day trend?

Mannwich said...

I have a message for all of us here, including myself - "Harden the fuck up".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmXri8ZCKjc

Mannwich said...

@anon: Fuck the trend. Too late in the trend for me now. Harden the fuck up, Mannwich.

Nic said...

Rosie:
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B7not0MAZdrXN2JjNjllMDItYmJkZC00M2RmLWEwYmQtZjIxNTc5YTFmYzc3&hl=en

I-Man said...

These fucking guys... I swear. Swinging their 20K blocks of SPY around everytime we get to a pivot level.

Just let it go already.

Leftback said...

So, if Voldemort decided to stay away from the auctions to give Timmy the finger, doesn't that mean that Voldy's holdings of Ts declined in value yesterday and today? You can see the problem for China.

China can rectify a lot of global problems fairly quickly with another cheeky rate hike. What they need to control their own inflation is to slow the flow of hot money - the result of that will be carry unwind.

Mannwich said...

That's it. There's your dip, all. Everyone should buy it now.

Leftback said...

Rosie doesn't trade, but I wonder if he and Gary Shilling were able to hedge their books this week to avoid the carnage. The boys on the govies desk at Schadenfreude certainly earned their corn yesterday.

Mannwich said...

C'mon TLT. Get moving, baby. Get along little doggie. Yes, it's clear I am insane.

CV said...

@jeff

Put a 'sock puppet' in it :-)

Mannwich said...

@cv: Sorry about that. Getting a little punchy lately.

Bruce in Tennessee said...

Manny:

You are not insane. Perhaps a little reality challenged, but that's just fine...

Anonymous said...

cnbc-

Short sellers, who make their money betting against stocks, commodities and whole markets, came into 2010 with an optimistic outlook. Then reality got in the way.

CV said...

That's the way, uh huh, uh, he LIKES it, uh huh uh huh apparently...

That's the way he liked it. And now it's landed him behind bars.

Richard Finch, a cofounder of KC and the Sunshine Band, was busted Tuesday in Newark, Ohio, for allegedly having sexual relations with a teenage boy.

Per the Columbus Dispatch, authorities took Finch into custody after the boy—whose identity is being withheld because of his age—told police he ended up engaging in sexual contact with the "Get Down Tonight" hitmaker at the latter's home recording studio several times over the past few months.

Finch, 56, was booked on a charge of gross sexual imposition and remains locked up on a $250,000 bond.

According to Sgt. Chris Slayman of the Licking County Police Department, the singer-songwriter had reportedly seduced the minor by playing off his interest in the music biz. No word on exactly how Finch met the boy.

Slayman said the former disco star confessed to sexual contact with several other boys between the ages of 13 and 17. Police are looking to interview them as they build a case that will be presented to a grand jury.

Read more: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b173398_kc_sunshine_band_member_arrested_on.html#ixzz0jDNkib6y

Nic said...

I think yields and yield spreads are beginning to matter in FX again, particularly EURUSD. The falling German / USD yield differential is what is driving EURUSD down. The Fed is sounding much more hawkish than anyone else lately, even Ms Yellen.
EURUSD 128 next month I reckon.

Mannwich said...

@Bruce: I would say that I'm UN-reality challenged, as I refuse to buy into the "recovery" story.

DL said...

I submitted a limit order last night to short ESM0 at 1171. It got filled, then shot up to 1176.

A relief to (now) be able to unload it at a profit.

McFearless said...

"Since when does Sir Goldilocks give a rat's ass about the middle class?"

Oh come on, he dedictated his life to the middle class, with all that support of the "laugher curve"

AND, when he was doing all that coke it helped support the projects.

Come on guys

re: "All the Same Markets"

The first time I started to hear about this was late 06, it's gone mainstream now, which means the correlations look sloppy, it's not "dead" just not what it was before. Let's not forget that basically everything was moving in concert 1/15-2/5. Nothing is going to change once deflation takes hold again, good luck find a risk asset to hide in.

DL said...

Mannwich,

Regarding "recovery".

Depends where one looks.

McFearless said...

DL,

lol, I always ask that same question to the trend is your friend crowd:

Which trend is my friend?

Seems the unemployment trend, for example, is a friend of many.

McFearless said...

I'm sure you have all heard about this organized "armed demonstration"

Thoughts?

I-Man said...

Huh?

Leftback said...

Yield check:

SPY 1.77% dividend yield.
10y 3.89% yield.
QQQQ 0.44% yield.
IWM 1.09% yield.
GLD - JACK.

Nic said...

"armed" demonstration? LB can take his teflon trading testicles lol

McFearless said...

I think the last two years have shown a tremendous recovery in.... handouts?

The last 12 months have also shown a great deal of recovery to the GIB

That's Global Idiot Bubble for any newcomers...

McFearless said...

No, I'm serious, I just had to go get a new tire on my car as a screw was stuck in the other, was watching news, there has been a big organization of people that will be marching in Washington with pistols...loaded.

I kid you not.

Mannwich said...

@DL: Recovery in stocks and assets, perhaps. Everything else - seems like "new normal" of lower activity to me.

Nic said...

I love you Americans but seriously your gun laws are fked ...

Mannwich said...

Exactly, lb. So the stock market is basically just another round of "greater fool" passing the hot potato around to one another at bigger prices. Same freaking game. Same ending coming.

DL said...

Nic @ 2:47,

The "bad guys" will get guns no matter what the laws are.

McFearless said...

Nic,

I'm considering purchase of a mini Ruger, on days when I lose money I'll go to the range and blast a few off.

karen said...

Another UFB analyst call:

NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--Shares of hotel operators and lodging real-estate investment trusts jumped Thursday, with many setting new 52-week highs, as recent industry trends continue to be encouraging, leading to various investment-rating upgrades.

"Recovery is happening faster than people initially were expecting," FBR Capital Markets analyst C. Patrick Scholes said, adding U.S. revenue per available room, or revpar, has been positive since the beginning of March, a couple months sooner than expected.

DL said...

"Same freaking game. Same ending coming"

Been going on for centuries.

Tulips, anyone?

McFearless said...

exactly DL, I could go to West Philly right now and probably find any gun I wanted.

Nic said...

I think his yield list was aimed at these people:
http://www.thembugs.com/retail/sc_images/products/510_large_image.jpg

McFearless said...

Marvin Harrison might even convert his car wash to a gun shop up there...:)

Bruce in Tennessee said...

Lefty:

It appears your prediction about equities seeing these rising rates has come true within hours!

You aren't related to Carnack the Magnificent by any chance?

Mannwich said...

@DL: Yes, but that appears to be all we have left now (these games), as they are happening with greater frequency.

McFearless said...

Why can't people admit that credit is just expanding again, if you want to call that recovery fine, whatever makes you feel better about reality.

72bat said...

@ Nic
different cultures, different mindsets...
most of brits' overthrowing of tyrannical governments were in pre-firearms times, were they not?

Nic said...

True blue guys but if that's the rationale lets legalise everything illegal we can buy easily, no?

DL said...

McF,

They might as well sell uzies at the local 7-11.

I-Man said...

Our leaders have been digging the pit for a long time.

Its about fucking time they fell in it.

McFearless said...

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DL said...

Nic @ 2:53

ABSOLUTELY.

Especially, we should legalize pot and then tax it.

Mannwich said...

@Nic: I was going to write the same thing. If things "are going to happen" anyway, then let's not allow everything and see what happens? No laws or cops for anything. Let it go, Hobbes.

I-Man said...

I come from a long line of anti-federalist mountain dwelling types the fed doesnt want to fuck with.

So they can pry my gun from my cold dead hands.

Just like my grandpa said.

Mannwich said...

@DL: I agree with legalizing pot though (and I'm not a pot smoker).

Mannwich said...

I think we're talking hand guns, I-Man.

mcHAPPY said...

@Ben

Expanding credit would be the i word?

Followed by inability to pay back credit which of course would be the d word.

Also expanding credit would be pulling demand foward setting up for the d word collapse in teh future.

No?

Mannwich said...

After all, "the markets" will just sort everything else out. Like magic.

McFearless said...

Nic,

Pot seems next on the list re your 2:53.

Bruce in Tennessee said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7RWaIURRIQ

Mannwich said...

One thing about the "invisible hand" and the author of that treatise - Adam Smith also wrote a lesser known book that discusses how important morals (and ethics) are in capitalism. I guess today's crowd just glosses over that one and picks and chooses the parts of "the free markets" that suit them. Sounds familiar.

CV said...

@Nic

I don't know about you guys, but as far as "arms" are concerned, when the SHTF, I always rely on this:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uq2KcmM6MLM/S6uxdThlhFI/AAAAAAAAApo/GhC9czBIkKc/s1600/ShitHitsTheFan.jpg

Nic said...

I don't use it McF but seems we could do better just taxing its use than paying a bunch of cops to police it badly. Would help municipal budgets countrywide.

McFearless said...

@McHappy,

yes yes and yes.

I-Man said...

@ Manny

My grandpa wore his army airforce issue 45 on his hip everytime we went hiking.

Mannwich said...

I think you nailed it, McHappy. How long though? Another year or two, at most? This certainly can't go on for longer than the last bubble, can it?

Mannwich said...

@I-Man: Yeah, I'm not a huge anti-gun guy or anything but it seems like our culuture has a violent streak in it. Not a good combo, IMO.

McFearless said...

Nic, I agree, Pot should have been legal a long time ago imo.

Nic said...

Its almost time for the PPT to get to work isn't it.

DL said...

Quite the turnaround.

If I can buy ESM0 tomorrow at the 1160 level, I just might.

bob said...

The biggest opponents of the repeal of prohibition were the local rum runners.

McFearless said...

I think they get in around 3:17 or so.

It's only a 45 minute work day and you get all holidays and Monday's off.

McFearless said...

Has anyone here ever spent time doing time ration analysis?

CV said...

Yeah let's legalize POT!

We'll use the revenue, you know, for SCHOOLS & EDUCATION...

Just like the slot machines and the scratch off lottery!

Mannwich said...

Here comes the final hour pump. Save as it ever was.

I-Man said...

Good call Bob.

Most of my friends in the herb industry arent even growing anymore, they're too busy making bank setting up medi operations for people looking to cash in on "the boom."

The smart ones know that the gig is up in 2 years or less.

They know that it will turn walmart in no time flat, and no one will be able to make a dime.

You dont want to be a gold miner in a gold rush, you want to be selling them supplies.

Leftback said...

LB is breathing easier. Yet the possibility of COLD STEEL remains. Which of the buttons at 85 Broad will Blanky push?

The English just don't feel good about the idea that y'all are ARMED TO THE TEETH waiting for us to come back and burn down your little colonial villages. Which, really, was very silly of us, and George III was a nut job.

Perhaps LB can sleep tonight without Marc Faber whispering "Your bonds and dollars are Vurthless..."

bob said...

I've been in quite a few 1920's houses on the canadian border. They all were huge victorian houses that had secret rooms and tunnels systems.

If you ask the owners now, they will tell you that they were built for the underground railroad. The houses were built 50-60 years later. Figure that one.

McFearless said...

time ratio I meant

CV said...

This is all just a big 'jerk off' to keep the WINDOWS DRESSED for EOQ...

karen had it right this morning...

When the 10y hits a 4 handle, this thing will do a reversal like last June...

It actually looks more like June than January (although both had similar characteristics)...

The YIELDS on $TNX & TYX are the better similarity in the comparison...

Leftback said...

Most of my friends in the herb industry arent even growing anymore, they're too busy making bank setting up medi operations for people looking to cash in on "the boom."

Like the guys who set up microwineries for the hobbyists to bring their own grapes in to make 50 cases. Most of those growers are going to be gone in a few years or begging the jug guys in Modesto to buy their Merlot to put into Random Roger's Rustic Red.....

I-Man said...

I was gonna say Ben, I obviously dont do a good job of time rationing...

I spend most of my work day jibberjabbering with you peeps.

:)

DL said...

CV @ 3:06

... or at least, "medical (ahem) marijuana" in all 50 states.

CV said...

@I-Man

There is a difference...

When a gold mine runs dry it runs dry... And gold is not CONSUMED...

Something that is grown is not only renewable, but it is consumed...

Nic said...

Bob now those leftie-socialist-communist-pinko-fag-terrorist-vermin are using them to sneak them over the border for gay marriages.

Leftback said...

Gay marriage?

Isn't that a contradiction in terms? Isn't marriage PURGATORY?
LB imagines so, anyway.

Nic said...

Bill Gross says bonds have seen their best days: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aJx0FiNBapiU&pos=3

karen said...

from bespokeinvest.com

Internet Index Nearing 2007 Highs
THURSDAY, MARCH 25, 2010 AT 12:45PM
Forget about pre-Lehman levels. They're so last year for the internet sector, which surpassed its pre-Lehman levels last Summer. Now, with stocks like Amazon (AMZN), Google (GOOG), and Priceline (PCLN) all up sharply today, the Dow Jones Internet Index is making a run for its highs from 2007. Currently, the index is within 3% of its October 2007 highs. For all-time highs, however, don't hold your breath. As of today, the index is still more than 75% below its March 2000 bubble peak!

Nic said...

I am married to Mr Market LB

Mannwich said...

@Nic: So what does that mean for stocks? Don't bonds usually tell the real story?

Mannwich said...

@karen: A friend of mine who does freelance work in the Bay Area says his business is blowing up with Silicon Valley clients.

karen said...

Nic! you are too young to be married, anyway, and may that always be so!

Nic said...

They say bond guys are the smart ones Mannwich

Nic said...

Haha Karen, I hope so!

karen said...

Jeff.. blowing up as in expanding or in bits?

I-Man said...

What does that say about me and Ben then Karen?

DL said...

Marital bliss is not for everyone, I guess.

bob said...

Nic, the border goes both ways. Most of the recent big money is moving untaxed cigarettes UP into canada. PM was actually implicated in a smuggling ring a few years ago that was moving upwards of 1 billion dollars of cigarattes a year into canada.

The only story I could find quickly. "akwesasne" is a good start. Very valuable country in between the US and Canada.

http://www.minnpost.com/globalpost/2009/12/07/14023/cigarette_smuggling_rises_in_canada

DL said...

Mannwich @ 3:23,

Interesting anecdote. I figured those guys were doing well. I-phones and such.

CV said...

@karen

I'm going to save this part of your post...

"the Dow Jones Internet Index is making a run for its highs from 2007. Currently, the index is within 3% of its October 2007 highs. For all-time highs, however, don't hold your breath. As of today, the index is still more than 75% below its March 2000 bubble peak!"

---

You see, then in the future when I want to write something, all I'll have to do is replace the 2007 & 2010 date with what matches the scenario...

That'll be a real timesaver... THANKS!

Leftback said...

If we are on the Japanese trajectory then it is way too early to bury the bond market. Exhibit A: JGBs. Bill Gross has been known to blow hot and cold according to the position of their book.

Karen, LB is also too young to be married. Not ready for commitment at present.

In 2008, crude $150 blew up the economy, the consumer and the market. With the economy weak, even $90-100 could do it this time.

Anonymous said...

If anyone wants to read Richard Russell's view on the 30yr. bond's rising yield -Moneytalks.net.

Also, found ZH article, Big selloff coming.

Leftback said...

"Also, found ZH article, Big selloff coming."

ZH says that every day !!

McFearless said...

LB,

I basically agree, and lets not forget gross has been selling US Bonds.

And how about 90-100 crude with higher interest rates, that should be a great combo for our debt, er I mean economic, recovery.

Nic said...

Hugh Hendry still loves bonds. I'm sticking with him.

CV said...

@LB

I'm not really 'challenging' you on this idea"

"In 2008, crude $150 blew up the economy, the consumer and the market."

But $150 crude, I think had a greater impact on the MARKET when it reversed than it actually did on consumers...

I don't think it was up there long enough to do anything more than make people bitch for awhile...

It was reversing all those trades (mostly levered), that started the ball rolling...

All those people trying ti squeeze out that last 11% (as I said yesterday), with leverage and thinking that's the way to go...

McFearless said...

RR is a goldbug fwiw.

Mannwich said...

@karen: Expanding. More business than he can handle but his wife doesn't like the Bay Area, so they may move.

CV said...

...it was the MARKET, then, that took down consumers, not the actual price at the pump...

The psychology of fear when things started to go wrong...

bob said...

Any calls on the near term support for the EUR?

DL said...

Obama may not like this "easy money" stuff so much when crude oil gets above $100.

Leftback said...

Crude $150 was an absurd situation caused by the entire town of Greenwich piling into the same small futures market...

Well, well, they took their time but they are SELLING EM LLOYD...

Another Green Day for LB. GDP tomorrow, it's priced in. SELL THE NEWS, hedge fund and retail bitches....

CV said...

@bob

I don't know how "near" is near term for you...

But CV was calling for 1.29 on May 4th back on Feb 17th...

There, that sums it up...

Nic said...

At 132for me, Bob
Weekly support and resistance and if you draw a TL from 1995 high and connect with 2004 high it comes thru around there. I know that's a big timeframe but they sometimes wobble there

I-Man said...

This, is one of the best ZH posts I've read in awhile... I love it when they post order flow data:

"Analyzing the VWAP data for the SPY since the market lows yields some rather interesting observations. First, we are currently trading nearly two full standard deviations above the SPY VWAP from the low. VWAP is 112.1104, the SPY is 117.6, one standard deviation is 3.53, meaning that algos have now gone totally nuts when it comes to mean reversion, and that someone is pushing against the natural flow, with a virtually unlimited cash supply. Then again, this could be merely a function of the Fed's decision to destroy America's few prudent savers with infinite ZIRP. What is far more obvious, are the flagrant SPY block trades that have served no other purposes than to soak up (or release) excess liquidity in the market. In the table below, which represents the trades with largest VWAP calculation impact, two of the top trades (and potentially the 5mm and 2.5mm blocks as well), were transacted for no purpose whatsoever than merely to mask activity. The transacting party would throw in $700 and $300 million respectively (and possible $500 and $250 million) to stir activity the SPY, and to churn liquidity, only to withdraw the entire block within minutes at no or marginal profit. We are trying to track down the definition of churn, coupled with flash trading-based block frontrunning. We are confident that the SEC will help out in that particular effort... or maybe not."

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/some-observations-spy-vwap-and-block-manipulation-fsa-launches-probe-front-running-block-tra


This is the shit that gets my blood boiling everytime I watch the order flow in the 1min.

Mannwich said...

@lb: That's been my view on oil. If we get to anywhere near $100, game over for economy.

McFearless said...

check out the BZQ...

CV said...

@DL

Obama may not like this "easy money" stuff so much when crude oil gets above $100.

---

Are you KIDDING? He'll be loving it... He'll cherish the day when the Saudi king bows back at him in a big "thank you"

DL said...

LB @ 3:42

Yeah, blame it all on the futures traders.

WRONG!

karen said...

No doubt LB will never be ready for commitment, LOL. And, it's a good thing too !!

Is this tape really going to grace us with a sell-off? and leave my fxp shares green?

Mannwich said...

FXP up 3.65% today.

bob said...

CV

I just don't see any obvious support. Haven't been down here in a while. Looking at the lows on the long term MA's, 1.3215 to 1.3175 could be a support.

karen said...

CI: Money-Market Fund Assets Fell $4.24B In Latest Week
3:44 PM ET 3/25/10 | Dow Jones

Assets in money-market funds decreased $4.24 billion in the latest week due to a decline in retail assets, according to the Investment Company Institute.

The withdrawals add to a recent streak of money-market outflows, extending the 11-week trend that has amounted to about $303 billion in outflows, as reported by ICI.

Cash has been leaving money-market funds as investors seek higher returns; yields have been close to zero for months.

Nic said...

I agree Bob, its pretty clean air but 132.11 is minor support.
Do you use fib projections (or measured moves)? A 100% projection gives 132.12

I-Man said...

@ Ra

Um... Katy?

Nic said...

I meant fib expansions, sorry

Leftback said...

OH come on, you sound like Krugman, he was all "supply and demand" when it was actually just leveraged to the moon paper trading, there never was a shortage of oil. We corresponded on this and Prof K was completely unable to understand the influence of futures trading and couldn't put down the EMH for long enough to see the OBVIOUS manipulation.

Barry on the other hand called for a MASSIVE oil crash on carry unwind. He was correct. I mean was there 5 times more oil in Feb 2009 at $30 than there was at $150? Of course not, it was jokers gunning the market with fuck off amounts of leverage.

CV said...

@bob

Here is the chart on FXE that I annotated on Feb 17th...

It's still, after a month, maintaing a price range within the wedge I designed...

When it breaks the boundaries of that... I'll reconsider...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uq2KcmM6MLM/S4lDph87pZI/AAAAAAAAAa4/xPJKCr4z4d0/s1600-h/FXE_2_26_10.JPG

bob said...

Nic

Just looked at the weekly MA20. There was a little wobble above the bottom around 1.32. April 09.

Leftback said...

That was for DL, obviously.

JOHNNY, do you have small caps? I mean, a lot. Should you be lightening up here, I mean you know there's no palladium in that mine, right?

DL said...

Yes, the futures market influences the oil producers and vice versa.

A little like "chicken and egg".

CV said...

@LB

aaahhh leverage... It makes you do tings you don't want to do... (said with my best Russian accent)...

Mannwich said...

Interesting turn of events today, folks.

McFearless said...

@Karen,

Thanks for that MMF information. See, I'm decent for something, roughly a three weeks ago I mentioned my meeting with JHancock and how they told me they were seeing equity flows, mainly to their Classic Value fund, as I've been saying for over a month, retail was coming back in. I lost a client to that crap, the $70k account I discussed.

On another note;

supply and demand is all part of the exogenous cause model....an easily disproved thesis.

DL said...

If only we could put people like Nic out of business.

Crude oil would drop to $30/barrel.

Leftback said...

This is the way we drew it up for yesterday... it arrived a day late.

karen said...

AR, you should have fun with the candle wrap for a change.. you could just put up one chart to represent all of them, haha.. i'm rather partial to the xlf candle myself.

CV said...

@Jeff

Like Cramer says...

"There's always a BULL(S***) market somewhere and I'm out to find it for you"... The "s***", that is...

CV said...

@AR

Yeah RA... How about some nice "scented" candles? :-)

Mannwich said...

Finally, a reversal of some sort. Off to the gym.

Leftback said...

Futures markets work fine under normal conditions - but the pension funds, IBs and SWFs simply overloaded the modest size of the crude markets. It's like any market that becomes lopsided with large positions and leverage. Sugar, anyone?

DL said...

...and there's always a bear market too.

Why doesn't he ever look for that?

CV said...

Amen's chant...


RA RA ree, kick 'em in the knee!
RA RA ras, kick 'em in the.........other knee!

CV said...

@DL

Because they're too hard to find...

Nic said...

Wot me? I got an email today offering me 400:1 leverage from a broker in Cyprus. What a joke.

I-Man said...

@ K

How bout the WFC candle?

AmenRa said...

Funny that I haven't heard much about Ambac's probable bankruptcy in the MSM.

I-Man said...

Or GS?

karen said...

I-Man!! look at BAC!! We could have a field day with these tickers! But I must get out for some sun and exercise.. check back for the wrap !

Leftback said...

Another day in the GREEN for LB.

The small caps are where the specs are and JOHNNY has been known to panic.... those auction scares might be communicating something right now to the NY Fed's Plunge Implementation Team. IF JAMIE and LLOYD join in tomorrow then we might really have some fun.

Mannwich said...

@I-Man & karen: Big boys & girls leaving the building and Johnny entering at just the wrong time (again)?

DL said...

The amount of money on the long side in futures equals the amount on the short side.

Furthermore, one could make the argument that the futures market is a barometer of the psychology of the oil producers. No reason to think that one would be bullish, while the other is bearish.

I-Man said...

No. Not at all Manny.

Just "profit taking".

;)

Leftback said...

The Bond Report 3.25.10

If yesterday was a tectonic shift in the Treasury market (did the earth move for you, too, Karen?), then today was more of a mild aftershock - in fact really apart from the auction of 7y Ts, this could have been any old vanilla RISK-ON day in credit as junk issues advanced early in the day at the expense of IG and Treasuries.

Corpies: LQD -0.36%; AGG -0.26%; JNK 0.48%; HYG 0.24%;
Govies: TLT -0.64%; IEI -0.14%; TIP -0.14%

The best line of the day from Macro Man, on the "tail" in the 7y auction. "it's not long, it's prehensile". We did nothing although we were active shorting small cap stocks around noon and we are now smirking contentedly.

Bruce in Tennessee said...

How'd the twins do today? Been so busy, kinda lost track of 'em...

Bubba said...

Whatever Leftback, we know you're full of crap... never made a trade in your life.

Gary said...

Oh, he trades, Bubba...

But he's just a wet behind the ears 24 year old hedge fund punk.

DL said...

We are so lucky that "Gary" has paid us a visit.

Gary said...

I dont have time to mess around with all you kids, I have a huge pension fund to stack with interest rate swaps.

McFearless said...

is that Gary from MM?

I-Man said...

I cant contain myself...

It was I-Gary.

I-Man said...

It gets kinda boring out here on the west coast after the market close.

I was practicing my prose.

DL said...

McF @ 4:55

That would be the one.

I mean, Leftback would never impersonate anyone else.

Gary said...

No, that would be childish.

John Mayer said...

One imagines that was probably I-Bubba as well.

Where are the chicks?

I-Man said...

Gary at 5:05 is not I-Gary...

I-Man said...

Nothing escapes the I, John Mayer...

My memory is photographic.

Bubba said...

TA is for pussies.

Bobby Prechter said...

Meow....

Militant Rasta said...

Guns are cool...

Robust Fractal said...

The reversal seemed quite telegraphed. Eventually We get the repricing and dose of reality everyone is calling for, but from what lvl? Very difficult to say. 1240 to 840, 1320 to 860? 2011 2014? How long can central bank and fasb Induced fantasy go on? Eventually does China play a (negative for the US) role?

not very flattering!: www.cxoadvisory.com/gurus

There is a decade breakdown (2000's) of R.P. as well as others, in fairness the authors ignore RP bullish calls in the early 80's.

Cheers.

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