Morning Corner 10.6.11

AUDJPY (weekly info)
new low 0.7376
trend=down
low= 0.7376
rev= 0.7913; mid= 0.7645


AUDJPY is dropping hard and fast which indicates a "risk off" for the EU. It's below its SMA(144). It's below its 61.8% retrace. It's below its monthly 3LB mid. It's sill making lower lows.



EURCHF (weekly info)
-no change (above mid)
trend=no
direction=up (2 bars)
high= 1.2190
rev= 1.0914; mid= 1.1552

EURCHF is holding above the peg set by the SNB at 1.20. They have not been challenged so far. It's above the SMA(21) and monthly 3LB mid. It's also above its 61.8% minor retrace.







R.I.P.

67 comments:

Anonymous said...

Say what you want but Steve Jobs vision is why computers, phones and tablets are where they are today

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"I" will say what I want (which may come across as 'tacky', but it's not intended as such)...

To keep things in perspective (vis-a-vis Jobs' innovation)... Despite being REVOLUTIONARY, how have all these products improved 'society' over the past 30 years?

- Are there less wars? Or are there MORE wars because technological human interface capabilities help to remove human drama from the battlefield... Let me put it another way... WARS are 'started' by politicians... They are fought by soldiers, but it is the politicians who appear quick to embrace the 'video game' aspect of things... It is everybody who pays the price for those vanities...

- What about TEXTING 24 hours a day? Are we better off being more connected? Or have we created a society filled with mindless idle banter that serves little purpose (and might in many cases be 'regressive')... What kind of 'decision makers' are the children of today going to become after 90% of their waking youth years are spent behind a 'COOL' device playing games & texting 'TOTALLY' to their BFF's?...

I'm not here to belittle Steve Jobs, or the innovations he brought forth (which were clearly embraced by the population at large [who are the ultimate judge & jury])... But I think it's also important to use a moment like this (prior to 'beatification'), to question what the overall achievement is, was, & might be...

It's clearly NOT the fault of Steve Jobs if there end up being what turn out to be abuses of technological innovation...

The same 'atomic energy' that lights bulbs & warms houses can also irradiate parts of the planet... Biology can be used for healing or destroying... Same for nano-technology and a host of other things...

There's a 'little of both' (good & bad) in everything...

To me...(myself)... or "I" (as the case may be)... It is more important that the "I" be respected & deployed properly long before the:

- Tune
- Phone
- Pad

or whatever...

my "I" 2 cents... (RIP Steve Jobs)

cv

Anonymous said...

& to all the 'socioeconomists' out there...

What are the ramifications of a man named 'JOBS' towards the lack thereof in todays world...

Oh well, at least of standing in an unemployment or soup line all day, you can go on 'food stamps' (to offset what WAS your monthly food budget), & with the proceeds, pay for your Apple I-phone service and sit on your ass for 99 weeks texting messages to your friends...

We've come a long way...

I can't wait to see how IMPROVED we'll be 30 years from now...

I-Jetpacks bitchez!

CV

ben22 said...

re: jobs

"how have all these products improved 'society' over the past 30 years?"

well, I suppose one might point out that directly or indirectly in the last 5-6 years Steve Jobs probably "saved or created" 10's of millions of jobs all over the world

I think you could argue that's 'good for society' .....oh but wait, is the counter-point then that all those people with jobs used their money to buy junk food and then they ate it so Steve Jobs indirectly enabled these people to abuse money in a bad way?

really?

products aside, his commencement speech at Stanford 2005 alone, as another example, might serve to inspire 1 person that later impacts the lives of millions of people in a positive way, someone that instead of "listening to society" follows their true passion in life... but then I suppose we could follow of a chain of events to say this could also "be bad"

I'm the net, I'm not afraid to say Jobs did way more good than bad in his short time here.

but more important, it really freaks me out that so many people out there are starting to measure everyone by how they perceive them to be "benefitting society"

look, lets just get out there up front that you can't quantify that and every individual has their own thoughts about what that even means, one doesn't need to think too hard about how this can become very dangerous

Steve Jobs title was not public servant, for me the interesting socionomic observation here is that so many people out there are asking this "how do you benefit society" question of those that have chosen to spend their time in the private sector rather than repeating this question every day in discussion about actual public servants, or shall I say those that pretend to be public servants

AmenRa said...

CV

I don't care. Apple products have changed the way people of the world communicate. Whether it's for good or bad is beside the point.

Anonymous said...

I'm fine with all the counter arguments... (as I'm fine with 'all' arguments in general)...

I think what caught my attention was the fact that all of a sudden, last night, I started reading this 'LOVEFEST' about Steve Jobs...

Instant Sainthood...

I suppose if Obama were to die tomorrow he'd achieve INSTANT SAINTHOOD as well... For doing what?

Jobs was a man... who innovated a cool product that a lot of people liked & made a lot of money for himself in the process...

Obama is a man... who 'organized a community', got a lot of people to like him, & will probably leave with a wheel barrow of cash for himself before all is said & done...

I teach group fitness & make a lot of people happpy in the process (probably 'piss off' a bunch too in the process - but we don't talk about those - just as we don't generally talk about the people that Jobs & Obama 'piss off' in the process - go ask Bill Gates about that)...

Anyway... I'm just waiting for my wheelbarrow of cash... But not really... & contrary to popular belief... when I die... I'm not concerned how I'm 'remembered' by the public at large... I AM concerned about how I'm remembered by my FAMILY... Things outside the family have a way of taking care of themselves over the passage of time...

CV

Anonymous said...

Apple products have changed the way people of the world communicate. Whether it's for good or bad is beside the point.

"changed the WAY people communicate"

Are they "communicating"... really?? Or just talking??

Whether it is good or bad, to ME... IS the point... Yet I relinquish that that is totally subjective...

This is not a #winnable argument on either side (because it comes down to 'values')... If I VALUE a sit down Sunday dinner with my family members OVER 4 friends sitting together in a bar face to face (yet all 4 of them are staring into the screens of their I-Phones having conversations with OTHERS)... That's MY problem...

Others may VALUE the latter for the sheer 'coolness' of it all (or for whatever reason)...

Anyway... NONE of this is the fault of Jobs... I'm sure he didn't set out to INVENT a way of improving the standards & values of society...

And let's be clear... The VERY PERSON that actually DOES take it upon themselves to 'invent' things to improve the VALUES of society is a 'goner' before they even embark on their quest...

If you don't believe me, just look at:

- Democrats
- Republicans
- Evangelists
- Carnival Barkers

Of course, then, there are CENTRAL BANKERS... Those are the only 'true' public servants worthy of beatification (/snark)...

cv

ben22 said...

CV,

I'm sitting here really trying to understand where exactly you are coming from right now. I've come to the conclusion that I don't care.

and this

"Are they "communicating"... really?? Or just talking??"

what are you trying to start exactly?

talking IS a form of communication, a child knows this, doesn't matter if it's over the phone, via text, or e-mail.


If what you said really matters, that it's all about family, then who really gives a shit what you think about Steve Jobs contribution to society

disprespectful dude....

AmenRa said...

CV

It doesn't mean you stop talking to others. It's access to info that can add/detract from the convo.

BTW the computer you're using has a GUI interface?
How about those FF updates? Can't be around the tv all day.

ben22 said...

"I think what caught my attention was the fact that all of a sudden, last night, I started reading this 'LOVEFEST' about Steve Jobs..."

I'd also say, the 'lovefest' for jobs

hardly came about last night, anyone thats monitored the ticker AAPL over the last decade can easily see the love fest is old....what you are seeing is people showing respect from one of the more accomplished individuals we'll probably ever see in our lifetime.

Anonymous said...

This was from Art Cashin this morning...

"This morning the papers, media and newsletter are filled with deserving tributes to Mr. Jobs. He was truly unique. My best recollection was when he described the MAC as the “computer for the rest of us”. He made technology that worked for you, rather than the other way around. From the MAC through the iPod, the iPhone; iTunes and the iPad, he made devices that looked and felt cool. He put us in “touch” with the world around us."

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People... Don't get me wrong... I TOTALLY ADMIRE what Steve Jobs was able to produce... So anything I'm writing here is NOT a criticism of Jobs (or Apple products)...

What I am doing is using the OCCASION to make a criticism about humans in general and the lack of DEPTH that they generally apply to their everyday tasks (& how THAT is the thing that holds us back)...

I'll go back to Cashin... Now - Cashin is a respected man (I'll say that I fall into the category that respects him as well - or AT LEAST his courage to offer up a viewpoint on things)...

Probably 90% of the people would take Cashin's statement at FACE VALUE... Yet another glowing log on the funeral pyre...

But to dissect it, you come up with this:

He made technology that worked for you, rather than the other way around.

TRUE - But in the end, it has practically rendered society incapable of functioning WITHOUT the technology... We have become SLAVES to it... So 'who's working for who' again?

"He put us in “touch” with the world around us"

SURE - but in an operational sense, THE WORLD is the 6 inches in front of your face... Now it's easy to BYPASS that and go straight to something that is incomprehensible in the aggregate...

I'll use a football analogy...

Everything starts with the SNAP (of the ball from the center to the QB)... If that process gets blown up, and then, if individual players miss their individual assignments, the play gets blown up...

Football works by the 6 inches in front of your face... If that doesn't work, well... The result can be 'entertaining'... A QB like Michael Vick can IMPROVISE his way out of blown plays and make highlight reels doing so... But a TEAM that can't take care of individual business is likely to find themselves at (1-3) like the Eagles (& maybe staring at another loss this weekend)...

Peeps ought to remember that the next time they watch a jazzy Michael Vick play in their 'cool' I-Pad...

cv

Anonymous said...

@ben

who really gives a shit what you think about Steve Jobs contribution to society

disprespectful dude...


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The only thing clear to me right now is that you 'don't give a shit' about what my opinions are and/or the methodology I use to sieze the charged atmosphere of a moment to make a metaphorical comment about society in general...

cv

Just think how much 'better' it would have been if the GUI had never been invented... That way, billions upon billions of people would have NEVER found time or interest to start using computers & devices & therefore BLOGS would have probably not taken foothold...

Then, someone like yourself could be spared from hearing my (your words) 'disrespectful' comments...

dude

AmenRa said...

CV

It doesn't mean you stop talking to others. It's access to info that can add/detract from the convo.

BTW the computer you're using has a GUI interface?
How about those FF updates? Can't be around the tv all day.

AmenRa said...

CV

It doesn't mean you stop talking to others. It's access to info that can add/detract from the convo.

BTW the computer you're using has a GUI interface?
How about those FF updates? Can't be around the tv all day.

Anonymous said...

@ben

...on the subject of 'RESPECT'...

In my life, I've purchased the following:

- An APPLE II computer (this was the kind BEFORE the GUI's came about)... Damn thing cost nearly $2000

- I bought the original Mac (pictured by Amen - above) when it first came out... So CV was showing 'a lot of love' for Steve Jobs long before anyonbe else was...

- I bought a Mac II (for over $5,000) in 1988 (with a... drumroll... COLOR SCREEN... a 40 megabyte hard drive & 4 megs of RAM

- I bought a laser printer (for ($5,000) to go with that...

Didn't buy another Apple product until an I-Pod... Then the FIRST I-Phone...

As a PAYING CUSTOMER (& having spent close to $20,000 in Apple products - most of which came BEFORE Jobs reached SUPERSTARDOM)...

I think I've already given him the only TRUE measure of 'respect' that any person can give another person (outside of their family)...

(unless you want me to run over the the Apple store right now and lay a wreath of flowers)...

cv

Anonymous said...

Jeez... I forgot to mention all the 'Protools' music editing software...

Better bump that up to about $30,000

\cv

ben22 said...

CV,

My point should be quite clear I would think

as was explained a few weeks ago there is a huge bubble in methaphors

you pick, to me, an odd time to further prove that point by making long drawn out first this then that then this arguments that end up with a statement about Michael Vick and it all gets prompted by the death of Steve Jobs????

and you are so right, in this case, I could really care less about your opinion on the matter or your long process in how you arrived at it

your very first point is one that doesn't seem to have any factual basis at all for starters, the idea that he didnt' stop wars from happening with the iWhatevers....I think history shows, especially since the internet age, there have in fact been less wars and death related to wars despite your attempt to draw some sort of war/technology causation.

http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/pinker07/pinker07_index.html

ben22 said...

From the link:

In the decade of Darfur and Iraq, and shortly after the century of Stalin, Hitler, and Mao, the claim that violence has been diminishing may seem somewhere between hallucinatory and obscene. Yet recent studies that seek to quantify the historical ebb and flow of violence point to exactly that conclusion.

Some of the evidence has been under our nose all along. Conventional history has long shown that, in many ways, we have been getting kinder and gentler. Cruelty as entertainment, human sacrifice to indulge superstition, slavery as a labor-saving device, conquest as the mission statement of government, genocide as a means of acquiring real estate, torture and mutilation as routine punishment, the death penalty for misdemeanors and differences of opinion, assassination as the mechanism of political succession, rape as the spoils of war, pogroms as outlets for frustration, homicide as the major form of conflict resolution—all were unexceptionable features of life for most of human history. But, today, they are rare to nonexistent in the West, far less common elsewhere than they used to be, concealed when they do occur, and widely condemned when they are brought to light.

At one time, these facts were widely appreciated. They were the source of notions like progress, civilization, and man's rise from savagery and barbarism. Recently, however, those ideas have come to sound corny, even dangerous. They seem to demonize people in other times and places, license colonial conquest and other foreign adventures, and conceal the crimes of our own societies. The doctrine of the noble savage—the idea that humans are peaceable by nature and corrupted by modern institutions—pops up frequently in the writing of public intellectuals like José Ortega y Gasset ("War is not an instinct but an invention"), Stephen Jay Gould ("Homo sapiens is not an evil or destructive species"), and Ashley Montagu ("Biological studies lend support to the ethic of universal brotherhood"). But, now that social scientists have started to count bodies in different historical periods, they have discovered that the romantic theory gets it backward: Far from causing us to become more violent, something in modernity and its cultural institutions has made us nobler.

Anonymous said...

@ben (re: link)

What a bunch of effin wasted vowels, consonants, & syllables...

If there are LESS wars, it's mostly because there's less HUNGER (combined with the fact that 'territorial expansion' has shifted from CONQUEST to simple CONTROL of supply lines)...

Remove CRUDE OIL from the equation, and the world devolves back into anarchy...

Remove i-Pads, I-Pods, & MACS, and we may just end up having to look people in the eye again and utter a few words (instead of blazing by whith headphones in your ears and eyes staring down at some screen)...

Hey - but as long as the guy who can "fire off the trade" on his TD Ameritrade account from the 4th hole of the local muni (then sit at the 19th hole talking about world peace) is happy, then I'm ALL FOR the technology...

cv

ben22 said...

whatever you need to tell yourself to deny it CV, history has a funny way of pissing people off when the facts disagree with the ideas they had convinced themselves to be true so given your conviction in us returning to the stone age it's not a shock you'd have a visceral response toward someone that has actually tried to document and quantify what has actually taken place.

remove Crude oil from the equation and blah blah blah blah

is that sort of like "wellll, if you take financials out of the S&P 500 then...." ??

but, we don't "take it out" because it exists

here's another example of how wasteful that type of conversation is

"hey, if there's no sun there's nobody alive on Earth and then....."

but, again, there is a sun, and it's still burning, think thats what they refer to as mental masturbation

as for what you're "all for" seems like you are just like me and everybody else on that front
you are "all for" the stuff that you get some good usage out of, you enjoy, and get some benefit from, see your 11:02 as my example.

Anonymous said...

@ben

visceral response toward someone that has actually tried to document and quantify what has actually taken place

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I suppose I'm supposed to lay down my arms and never even attempt to have a thought or opinion (because somebody wrote a paper)?...

...and to put (some or all) of your thoughts on a sped up timereel...

- yes, it's mental masturbation... Probably the same kind of mental masturbation that 'Jobs' did himself often in NOT accepting things for the way they were or seemed

- when we run out of oil WE WILL return to the Stone Age (as we have time & time again)... Most don't think of it that way because history, TO THEM, is only what's on books & charts that are written by the #winners... But as you say, history has a funny wau of pissing people off... Which is WHY... Civilizations come, & go, & are FORGOTTEN & BURIED on a timeline that stretches much further back than the Sumerian civilization... Why is none of that documented?... EXACTLY!

- Which brings me to my final point... It will continue to go (as described above), for eternity... That is... Of course, as you suggest, until the sun explodes into a red giant...

But I suppose that is just more mental masturbation...

As for 'enjoyment' (until the sun runs out)... Well - there are many ways to do that...

I probably get as much enjoyment out of 'pissing you off' as I ever did with the $30,000 I spent on Apple products... & the beauty of it all is...

I can 'piss you off' for FREE! (on a PC) :-)

cv

Anonymous said...

Part of the reason we'll go back to the 'STONE AGE'...

Is because nothing that is written on computer disks will survive in a devolution...

Imagine some wizard of an archaeologist... 10,000 years from now... when the ground you're standing on right now (or the flimsy desk you're sitting at), is buried 100 feet underground...

I hope Steve Jobs had enough 'foresight' to paint the 'codes' & all of his patents on the walls of caves...

Who knows... Maybe that's where he FOUND them in the first place & never told anybody about it... I guess we'll never know...

cv

Andy T said...

For me...Steve Jobs was "real deal" capitalist/inventor.

He single handedly created hundreds of billions of wealth in a short period of time.

I'm not sure where the world has ever seen that kind of wealth creation in such a short period of time.

Anonymous said...

A person can look at A LOT of things in strange & peculiar ways...

& in the process do a lot of 'mental masturbation'...

For example...

3 tall green candles (well - today's is the third - THUS FAR)...

Anyway, the S&P, at the moment has climbed back to 1154 last I checked...

Now... Let's say it dives back under 1108 (where it seemed to have gained confidence, or thereabouts) on Monday & that starting next week we see a probing of those 'low 1000's', or even a 9 handle sometime within the month...

Is it because...

A) The "a-b-c-x-y-z-PRINT MORE MONEY, QUICK!" waves dictated it should perform as such... Those people who BELIEVE in that ought to do a little "wealth creation" of their own (or did they just turn somebody's elses LOSS into their gain)? Anyway that latter bit is unimportant...

B) Is it because Yom Kippur is tomorrow & Saturday & that this whole week (since last Wednesday) was an exercise in painting a fairly large trading range so that the algos could go to war with each other during the Rosh Hashana - Yom Kippur break... Some people may actually consider that... But of course THEY would be 'antisemitic'...

C) Was it the 'gnomes'?

D) What about the snow? the heat? the earthquake? the tsunami? the teleprompter? the Bernank? the bailouts? the lack of bailouts? QE3? no QE3? Operation Twist? The European Banks? (and what ever happened with those 'stress tests' anyway)?

Everyone has to believe in SOMETHING... I believe I'll have another beer... I'll pour myself one with the virtual 'app' I have on the I-Phone (that pours a beer) just to prove to everyone how cool I am & how they should believe in ME because I'm on the right track with technology...

cv

ben22 said...

CV,

try not to confuse you "pissing me off" with me laughing at you

and sure....you and steve jobs....great thinkers

thanks for reminding us all....

ben22 said...

also, I'd love to learn how you get "free" internet on the farm on your "free" computer

let me guess, you built them out of your free nickel collection

and while we're talking a bunch of nonsense

since it's all "free" for you I have to conclude that apparently your time is worth $0....or do you only accept payment in "real money" and since nobody can pay you in nickles over the web (which caused us all to regress right?) then I suppose thats how it's all "free" in your mind?

no need to answer, it's just a mental experiment, you know, to get a reaction out of you....

Anonymous said...

I have to conclude that apparently your time is worth $0

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According to YOU... that's exactly what my time is worth (or the thoughts it produces)...

And of course, as always, that's what's important...

Maybe I should spend more time, today, trying to figure out how to get my AUTOPICKED fantasy football team out of a 1-3 hole...

Oh no wait... My team is 2-2 (which is still below my standards)... I guess I'll have to improvise...

cv

Andy T said...

I'm "close" to the olefins markets...things like ethylene and propylene...the building blocks of the economy.

Chem margins are getting DESTROYED in the last several weeks and ethylene is getting pounded.

Sort of ominous for the chemical cycle and the economy....

Just sayin'

Anonymous said...

I've achieved THAT free time by not having to worry about dumb questions like...

I'd love to learn how you get "free" internet on the farm on your "free" computer

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That's actually a VERY EASY RIDDLE to solve... For a thinking person... Some people ought to try it sometime...

By the way, the ANSWER to that question (while totally obvious), is NOT a tactic that I employ at present (but it's out there for the taking if anybody with two wits about them can figure it out)...

cv

...and AMAZINGLY - I didn't even need to do an internet search to figure it out...

Anonymous said...

@Andy

"Sort of ominous for the chemical cycle and the economy..."

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Some things are WRITTEN IN STONE... Other things aren't...

cv

Anonymous said...

Ladies & Gentelman...

MEET THE BEATLES (& ben's 'THEME SONG')...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k5ooaufrLM

╭∩╮(︶︿︶)╭∩╮.

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This response was randomly generated by computer bot (requiring NO human 'thought' or input)

Anonymous said...

don't get nervous out there everyone... This is just the monthly 'CLASH of the TITANS' between CV & ben...

Or perhaps, more appropriately... 'TITS of the CLASHONS'...

cv

ben22 said...

tits of clashons....loving that

"According to YOU... that's exactly what my time is worth (or the thoughts it produces)..."

nope, not according to me, just responding to your statements as I always do

see: "I can 'piss you off' for FREE! (on a PC) :-)"

see how I put that together now? your time is apparently free....

also, you never built a free computer but nice try....I don't need an internet search to figure that out, you never whittled out a monitor from the oak trees on your property either....

Anonymous said...

@ben

We're selling the property in Maryland... As such, I've been to the landfill probably 50x in the last 4 months...

If you've not been to a landfill recently (which I'm fairly sure you haven't) &/or gotten those manicured fingernails dirty (who knows? maybe you HAVE - maybe you 'slum it' every once in a while just to get that manly feeling back)...

Anyway... Landfills AIN'T what they used to be when I was a kid... You used to just dump it all on a pile & they ran a bulldozer over it...

Nowadays, there are 'containers' parkeed everywhere... Some you load electronics into... then there ones for cardboard, plastics, etc... You name the 'materials' category, there's a container for it...

90% of the electronics that are being junked are completely useable... On a whim - I could go to ANY landfill and furnish an entire house with the 'junk' of others FOR FREE (because - especially around here many people 'junk' perfectly working stuff on a whim - mostly because everyone around here works for THE GOVERNMENT [which is how they get THEIR MONEY FOR FREE] & they have to always have the latest & greatest so they can 'hang' with Michele Obama)...

Now - you're not SUPPOSED to take anything from those containers... But let me tell you, it would be laughably easy & the opportunities are abundant...

In fact though... One need not go that far... In the moving process, I can't tell you how much stuff I've 'given away'...

West Virginia is a trip... If you need to get rid of something, you put it out on the street with a sign & it's gone within an hour...

On the subject of FREE... Despite all your efforts, you're not being exposed to the 'under-economy' of things enough to make a solid argument besides making clever jokes about nickles & whittled down oak trees...

Not that you'd ever need to 'slum it' with the likes of me... I'm sure the candles & waves tell you everything you know about how to turn other peoples savings into fiat dollars for yourself...

cv

Anonymous said...

Besides...

I don't have an oak tree on my property (that doesn't exist)...

I have 5 pines, a cedar, a honey locust, a dogwood, a hickory, a maple, & two apple & pear trees that I just planted (the fruit DOESN'T EXIST yet)... Until it arrives, I'll assume NOTHING exists...

cv

(oh yeah... & there's a stand of Arbor Vitae's which I wish DIDN'T exist)...

cv

Anonymous said...

Last year... I ran THIS BLOG for an entire year...

FOR FREE

I guess it was all a waste of time... No 'innovation' there, no 'original thought'... It might as well all have come from somebody's MANUAL...

Preferably one that has a PHD in something like 'economics'...

cv

ben22 said...

CV,

regarding free, you just made the point for me again and again....and again, you had to drive to the landfill, you had to pay insurance on whatever you drove there, etc., nothing is free, wake up, I'm not making clever jokes but rather a very simple point, certainly you understand it, or you should anyway.

regardless, if I'm to understand you then you got parts out of a landfill to put the computer you are using together? is that right?

Pretty resourceful of you, pretty amazing in fact, I wouldn't know how to do that, but then, I might point out that you couldn't get into the draft either....which may end up costing you some money....think it might have anything to do with your landfill computer?

probably not......but then, everyone else got in, and I'm guessing not one other person in our league built their machine from landfill parts.

as for slumming it, more than 3/4 of my life was spent basically being pretty poor, but I suppose since I'm associated with Wall St. I get lumped in with the fat cats that get manicures a few times a week right?

anyway, I need to call in a few trades today before we close, I'd hate to regress by using my store bought computer to place them

after all, if I call it's more like "real talking" than me punching in some numbers on the screen....

ben22 said...

"Last year... I ran THIS BLOG for an entire year...

FOR FREE"

You do understand the concept that "time is money" right?

so another incorrect statement there...unless of course as I said before you think your time is worth nothing....

Anonymous said...

@ben

I was gone for a few hours so I just read your last two posts...

To wit:

1. I didn't say that I put together MY computer from the parts from the landfill (though I can actually do that, I know how)... Anyway, there, you don't have to... You easily find fully functional computers that somebody just junked because they wanted a newer model or the hard drive kept freezing up on them & they got frustrated & junked it...

2. NOT getting into the fantasy draft was (and is a mystery)... But frankly, that's a different subject altogether... There was about a window of 30 minutes that I had... I signed in 10 minutes before the draft & discovered the problems... I tried 2 or three obvious "fixes" like re-booting the system & re-booting the modem, all of which require TIME... By the time I'd exhausted those, I knew the draft would probably have been in the 3rd round anyway so I abandoned the idea & let the chips fall where they may... I never thought about it much afterwards from a 'technical' sense because you can't UNDO something that has passed... However, I did 'learn'... What did I 'learn'???

My 'hypothesis' is concerning the YAHOO platform... About a month earlier (when I first got the invite from Booey on the league, I went in and made one of those 'pre-draft' RANKING LISTS... The time I did that was the beginning of August... Literally a few days after the NFL strike was over...

Anonymous said...

Why do I say this??? Answer: Because of the ORDER of players selected... There is NO WAY that in a usual AUTOPICK scenario I would have ended up with Michael Turner in the #3 spot... It would have probably been Chris Johnson or Ray Rice or somebody at the time of the draft...

So you say... WHY would I have Michael Turner up so high?... Answer: I really didn't... When I was working on that a month before... I just tossed names on a list using drag & drop & never 'finalized' an order becaused I figured I'd come back to it (which I never did)... There was only ONE RB that I was interested in in the top #10 (& that was Ray Rice)... I can prove that to you by showing you the results of other drafts I did (which are all chronicled)...

I think TURNER was up there because he was my 2nd RB pick (assuming availability) based on the following criteria:

1. Take RAY RICE if you're draft position permits...
2. If your draft position dictates that Ray Rice is already off the board... Take either Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, or Drew Brees as your 1st pick...
3. Ray Rice will PROBABLY go (1-5), which means that in a 10 team league, you're drafting your 2nd player in the in the #16-21 position (you may or may not get one of the aforementioned QB's)... Therefore, go with a #1 RB or #1 WR (whichever is BEST on board)
4. If your draft position is #6-10, you'll never get Ray Rice, so take the QB of your choice FIRST

Anonymous said...

-3-

Anyway... to me... Michael Turner was like a #25 player, but he happened to be on an early list that I never edited...

I think I'm correct in all of that because many of the players that I'd forecasted early (like Jahvid Best & Santana Moss, miraculously fell to me)...

So what's the lesson? If you're ever drafting a Yahoo league (& you do one of those PRE-DRAFT thingys)... Be careful what you do... My hypothesis is that I unknowingly clicked on something that assumed that my draft was pre-selected... Therefore I was locked out of the LIVE DRAFT on account of my late arrival...

I don't know for sure... But my 'thinking' sure points me in that direction...

So I'm sorry that your FANTASIES about it having to do with a computer put together from landfill parts might not hold water (entertaining as they may be)...

& lastly... Since ytou do a lot of fantasy leagues... Let that be a FREE nugget of knowledge that I offer to you to avoid the same problem...

As for me, I'm still confident I can wiggle my AUTOPICKED team to a championship...

Through 'improvisation'... of course...

"You have to trust in something – your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. This approach has never let me down, and it has made all the difference in my life."

- Steve Jobs

Anonymous said...

@ben

Oh... & the answer to the final question:

You do understand the concept that "time is money" right?

---

Yeah - I suppose someone WROTE that somewhere, & then a bunch of other people who are a bit lacking in the capacity for original thought then liked the sound of it and made it part of their gospel...

As for me???

I always thought that TIME was TIME

& MONEY was MONEY

I'll allow 'others' to add any associations therewith...

Anonymous said...

& here's my last & final way to get yourself a FREE COMPUTER...

1. Go to the computer or electronics store (or via the internet) of your choiuce & price out the computer of your dreams...

2. write down the cost...

3. Add in state & local taxes (& freight - if it applies)...

4. Call your local BOOKIE & wager that exact amount & take the OREGON DUCKS (-24) tonight against the f***ing CALIFORNIA GOLDEN BEARS who are choking lame ass fools that cost me 5 units 2 weeks ago... Now, normally... I would go ahead and take CAL here... Not because I like them (but just because the public HATES them [which means that the Las Vegas sportsbooks HAVE TO like them by default])...

But amazingly (& this is TRULY TRULY amazing)... There is AS MUCH $$ (no wait... MORE $$) wagered on Middle Tennessee State covering a (-10.5) spread against the Western Kentucky Hilltoppers...

Somebody that read what I just said ought to have some BELL ring in their head as soon as they read that... If the bell DIDN'T ring, don't fret... I'm here to explain it to you...

It means that you should FORGET about being interested in the FEATURE game of the evening...

It means that the SPORTSBOOKS have no problems with 82% of the $$ on Middle Tennessee St. tonight...

So... If the OREGON DUCKS cover 24 points (which I say they will)... The BANK doesn't lose (which is usually the way things go)...

So GO AHEAD & take OREGON...

But (wink wink)... the 'sharps' are all the way across the country on the 'Hilltoppers' playing a weekday night game on the road & getting points)...

Kickoff in 4 minutes... 5...4...3...2...1

That's FREE information... (but ALWAYS consider the source... Some folks are prone to... ummm... "gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. This approach has never let me down"...

CV & Steve Jobs... Yeah... right!

Anonymous said...

Oh... I forgot to add... if you LOSE that one...

Just DOUBLE DOWN on the next two picks...

Now you REALLY have only 5...4...3...2...

to get the 'Hilltoppers' pick in...

Anonymous said...

kickoff at 7:30

Anonymous said...

I hope you have a PAID FOR computer at your disposal...

& furthermore... are keying in the strokes with 'manicured nails'...

Anonymous said...

don't forget to pay your TAXES on your winnings...

Anonymous said...

I hear the government accepts GOLD as payment...

Anonymous said...

If somehow you overpay...

They'll refund your money in FIAT...

Anonymous said...

so you have THAT going for you... :-)

Anonymous said...

@ben

Also... While I'm at it... & before I go into full GO HILLTOPPERS regalia...

a hypothetical question...

If you drive to a landfill with SOLE intention of dumping "x", "y", or "z" material... & then, upon arrival, find a container full of 2006, say, Windows XE, or Vista computers sitting there for the taking...

Do you count the money that you paid for gas on the trip? Which means that the computer you lifted was NOT ACTUALLY free?

I'm unclear on that...

Have you ever found a quarter (or any other loose change on the street)... Are you going to tell me that it's not worth PICKING UP because in the process of you MOVING AROUND in your daily life, you had to pay for gasoline somewhere... Better to LEAVE THAT QUARTER ON THE GROUND, right? Because of the 'cost' involved...

I wish I'd have gone to Penn State where they might have taught me all these delicate economic realities...

Probably if it were ME (at Penn State)... I'd have gone on a football scholarship & got my education FOR FREE...

But then... I actually would have PAID for my education anyway by all my hard work in Beaver Stadium every weekend...

You know... By getting my ASS pounded week after week by the likes of Alabama & Iowa...

We ARE!

ben22 said...

you are a truly amazing individual CV

I fully realize that no matter what is said to you, it never matters, that this won't matter either but what the hell

all I need to do is point you in the direction of something that we call the "options market" where "time is money" gets played out for us daily, in the context of what I'm discussing here I am hardly repeating this because I like the sound of it.....

as for all that about the draft, you know whats funny Johnny Gut Feel?

I used the internet to verify how the yahoo autodraft works so it doesn't have to be a hypothesis for me anymore, amazing. I know you hate looking things up but it probably only took me 10 seconds to figure it out, a mere fraction of the time it took you to type all that....and as I was saying....time is money 8-)

in a way, you really did pick your team, sort of.....

oh, and one more question

how many of those electronics at the landfill are in your home right now?

You were looking for a tv not long ago as I recall. I would almost promise there had to be a tv at the dump that fits what you are saying here, you know, it worked or you could make it work.

So is that where you got your "new" tv? How's football coming in on that.....were you able to get one with HD?

Lavernious Coles said...

Cvienne my man, you are the only person I know who could get into an argument in an empty room :)

However I feel your pain in the Fantasy Foot ball trades, if you remember correctly I picked Leverionus Coles Cuz SOMEBODY had to go and pick Adrian Peterson.

Then I picked up both Michael Vick and Mark Sanchez, both good picks, just a year to early, sigh that is the story of my life - Never getting the timing right.

Mangy Mutt

ben22 said...

CV, 7:45

you prove it again at the end of the post

the full ride player gets to go "for free"....lol

thanks for comin....

Anonymous said...

@ben

I was 'looking for a TV'... FOR MY MOM... because hers stopped working...

I was assisting her... Me - being the FAMILY oriented guy I am...

That is TRUE...

I guess I should send her an INVOICE... Because TIME is MONEY... after all... right?

cv

Anonymous said...

@ben

Of this... you are 100% correct...

I fully realize that no matter what is said to you, it never matters, that this won't matter either but what the hell

cv

ben22 said...

so you got her tv at the landfill or no?

Anonymous said...

@Mutt/Laverneus Coles

No problem...

Use your "Johnny Gut Feel"... Which is the same as saying:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2we_B6hDrY

"Johnny Gut feel" can ERASE a first round LC pick as easy as former teammate Darelle Revis can ERASE #1WR's & half of the football field...

cv

Free Internet said...

Ben - I do not want to get all geeky on you and stuff, but it is 100% possible (I have seen it done) to get free wireless internet.

When you take your iPhone to Safeway, Starbucks or the mall, you will find a signal that is "off network" these stores set this up and your phone finds them.

The signals are always out there they just need to fall into a certain bandwidth. It is the equipment that filters this bandwidth down. It is the equipment that costs money the signal it's self is free, yet the phone company charges us $30 per month (That is a real rip off)

Anyway the older satellite dishes use to use (And maybe still do???)the same signal that cell phones use.

So you could easily drive down to the local land fill go the the computer section and scrounge up the needed parts for free - Or you could forgo a manicure :) and spend the money at your Radio Shake Store and get the parts.

Mangy Mutt

Anonymous said...

@ben

I fully realize that no matter what is said to you, it never matters, that this won't matter either but what the hell

You're right & wrong about that one...

EVERYTHING COUNTS... (it's the AMOUNTS that matter)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t-gK-9EIq4&ob=av3e

The grabbing hands... grab all they can... It's a COMPETITIVE world

No Invoice said...

Ben - You do not get an invoice for the things you take out of the landfill.

Although you should probably get a tax break...

Mutt

Anonymous said...

@ben (8:07)

Nope... Unfortunately it was TH Gregg, or MJ Gregg (or whatever that retailer is called)...

I fought 'tooth & nail' against the idea... But IN THE END... It was SHE who wanted to buy it because that's what SHE wanted...

Probably not UNLIKE a lot of your clients who were falling all over themselves & ringing your (non-landfill) phones to put Netflix in their portfolios...

But HERE'S the 'cool' part...

SHE bought it... When I'm there, I get to watch it... It's a FANTASTIC TV...

& guess what... For ME... drumroll... IT'S FREE!

cv

Anonymous said...

Mangy Mutt 'KINS" cv on the FREE concept...

(witness the moniker)...

@Mutt

we may be 'barking' up the wrong tree (or dumpster) on this subject... :-)

back to Depeche Mode...

the SCAVENGING hands... SCAVENGE all they can... Everything counts in SMALL amounts...

cv

Anonymous said...

@ben

all I need to do is point you in the direction of something that we call the "options market" where "time is money" gets played out for us daily

---

You are quite correct... IN THE OPTIONS MARKET... time is money... (emphasis on the IN THE OPTIONS MARKET part of that)...

Does that qualify TIME IS MONEY as a ubiquitous applicable realism?

---

I say that because... well... of the 'HILLtop' of my head, the following occurs to me...

In the:

- prostitution
- jukebox
- 25 cent telescope on top of the Empire State Building
- Swedish massage

& other 'glamorous' industries... In fact...

MONEY is TIME...

Man I'm getting confused here... Largely becausaed 99.9% of the people on this planet don't even seem to have clue as to what MONEY (or TIME) actually are...

cv

AmenRa said...

Corner is up.

Anonymous said...

@Mutt

You do not get an invoice for the things you take out of the landfill.

---

I told a story earlier this summer on this blog (about some of my LANDFILL escapades)...

I told about me having TAKEN more than a cord & a half of perfectly seasoned & cut RED OAK firewood that was just sitting there waiting to be bulldozed into compost along with the branches & other things I was dumping...

Later that week... I actually got an e-mail from ben (with whom I converse with from time to time)... He commented on my SCORE... Basically said that was a 'SWEET' pickup...

But I suppose electronics don't fall into the same SCORE category...

At least for the purpose of ARGUMENTATIVE banter...

cv

Excuse me for a moment while I CALCULATE the GASOLINE & TIME cost (not to mention VEHICLE DEPRECIATION AMORTIZATION) of that particular trip...

I'm sure I'm going to find out that I might have well have just never went to the landfill at all & kept the refuse in a pile in my front lawn...

cv

ben22 said...

@ Mutt

"Ben - I do not want to get all geeky on you and stuff, but it is 100% possible (I have seen it done) to get free wireless internet."

you are totally missing the point, it's cool, I'm over the whole conversation, it's ridiculous anyway.

but thanks for the information, pretty neat.

CV,

My guess is, the flatscreen at your house came from a store as well, I got mine for free with the rewards points on my amex card which I racked up from the countless manicures I get, oh, and pedis of course...but then, I never had a perm ;-)

ben22 said...

CV,

it was a good score, never did I comment about it being free, lets just stop pretending because resources aren't being used efficiently you are able to arb that through the landfill on a consistent basis

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