Morning Audibles 7.15.10 - The Beatings Will Continue (redux)

Another bad night for BUCKY...







---(from ZH)---
John R Taylor Jr.
Chief Investment Officer


"This week, the US equity market is starting its quarterly earnings ritual and the odds favor a strong performance for the closely followed investor favorites. Although the game is rigged as almost 50% of the corporate managements have adjusted their guidance in the past month trying to lower analysts’ projections down to levels that the companies know they can beat. Despite the opera buffa quality of the process, the S&P 500 companies will still produce a dramatic increase in earnings over the second quarter of 2009. The same can be said of the major European corporations. The increase in corporate earnings and the projection of further increases seems to be universal, and many argue that the positive outlook for thousands of individual companies must sum to an impressive economic recovery."




---


What appears quite obvious, to CV, in the first few days of Q310 is the same phenomenon which occurred in Q210, Q110, Q409, Q309, Q209... 


1. Ramp up equities in the first few trading weeks of the quarter to make your quarterly nut. (If you'd have bought SPX 1010, you'd be up almost 8%)...
2. Slowly distribute those winnings into something relatively safe & liquid for the rest of the quarter. Start with the 3 b's... "bills, bonds, bucky"...
3. Get out of dodge & window dress the last 6 weeks...
4. Indulge yourself in some other "b's... (babes, bikinis, & blow)...


It's still early in Q310... We're just getting to the post FASB bank "earnings" sham, and the high profile tech earnings (whose "guidance", on the conference calls, is always highly correlated to the notion of a weak dollar)...


So in a macro sense, (despite CV's overall BULLISHNESS on the dollar), give it a few more days to get bucky as cheap as possible for the the alpha-dogs to buy at a discount...






then get themselves off to the Hamptons for the rest of the summer and share stories about their mastery of the universe...







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CV said...

Some Andy Xie for the morning...

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AmenRa said...

PPI -0.5% M-o-M
Weekly claims 429k (holiday week). Last week revised higher (again).
Empire State at 5 (expected 18).

CV said...

Sorry... you have to click through to

http://noir.bloomberg.com/

to allow the video function to work in your browser...

CV said...

@Amen

When we OFFICIALLY become the Romans (and have holidays & circuses over 200+ days out of the year), then those WEEKLY CLAIMS numbers are going to look great...

CV said...

Also...

Perfect! (PPI)... I'm sure CPI will show no inflation as well (even though prices at the pump are higher than a year ago)...

Tell "the beard" he needs to cut rates...

Anonymous said...

Dow Headed to 5000, Charles Nenner Says

JPMorgan Chase earns $4.8 billion

Foreclosures fall 5%

Weekly Jobless Claims Likely to be Skewed

Inflation expectations are jointly falling?

McFearless said...

Charles Nenner has been pretty spot on for a few years now...thanks Anon.

Anonymous said...

appears there was a bit of a commotion last night w/ Karen-

what? no sense of humor?

and a negative PPI- I don't see how that can be perceived as positive news-

same w/ mtg rates falling and falling- ominous if you ask me

Anonymous said...

When we OFFICIALLY become the Romans (and have holidays & circuses over 200+ days out of the year)

I could live w/ that

CV said...

@ahab

When people can't make monthly payments on basically FREE borrowed money, it seems to me that might, just might be problematic...

Anonymous said...

Sad fact for in the US of A, 1 in 8 are on food stamps.

We don't need no stink'n jobs!

Anonymous said...

CV

here is what I would do- upside down house- quit paying and continue on as always (assuming a non-recourse State)

12 or 24 months later- when the bank tries to foreclose- demand the bank show that they have legal standing to foreclose-

might give me a few more months- all the while living rent free-

now that's the life

Anonymous said...

@Ahab -- that's what my SIL tried to do. Unfortunately for her, she had her loan w/ one of the only banks in the country that hadn't sliced/diced/sold it off so she had to pony up the dough. Whoops! (Glad they don't live closer...)
-Jennifer

Anonymous said...

anon-

I want to go on food stamps and unemployment-

free food and nice little check- what's not to like-

that's why you don't see the anger you use to see when people would rise up-

a little food and spending money from Uncle Sam buys the complacency of the formerly middle class

Anonymous said...

Hmmm...CNBC just reporting that NBTY was "approached" for this deal in late April. I bet they top ticked the rally and are thanking their lucky stars that anybody wants to pay $55 bucks/share for their vitamins. -Jennifer

Anonymous said...

@ Ahab

Also, lease a car but don't make the payments, park it in your neighbors garage, should be good for a year of free driving.

Don't forget to max out the credit cards... it's the american way ;)

Anonymous said...

Jennifer-

in a non-recourse state- there is no "ponying" up to do-

the only legal right the lender has is to take back their collateral-

they cannot pursue a deficiency judgment-

why someone would pursue a short sale in a non-recourse is beyond me-

I would just stop paying and at some point hand my keys back to the bank- and say-

"hey it was fun while it lasted"

Anonymous said...

anon @ 9:25-

exactly- something for nothing- just like the big boys-

emulation is the sincerest form of flattery

karen said...

good morning! i'm okay.. will try not to have another emotional meltdown until saturday (my divorce mediation appointment.) thanks for being so sweet, CV, and protecting me from myself.. : )

Anonymous said...

Ahab -- you're preaching to the choir here. We tried to explain things...but some people just won't listen no matter how hard you try. I guess that's how we got in this mess to begin with. -Jennifer

I-Man said...

How come I always miss the fireworks???



Anyway, how's I favorite tribe of capitalists doing this morning?

Some hefty consolidation going on here, no?

What a wild overnight session in the YM, ES... psycho market.

CV said...

@karen

The bottom line (as applies to practically everything)...

To make an omlette you have to break some eggs...

McFearless said...

ahab,

9:03, just work for gov. Oblahblah has had more time for golf in the last two months than pretty much everyone I know. Makes sense really, he couldn't possibly have much to do.

McFearless said...

lol, look at UUP almost sub $24, remember about 3 weeks ago when it seemed impossible for the Euro to get up off the ground?

ah...I love markets.

CV said...

@I-Man

Yeah... Pin that SPY 110 for tomorrow and then I'm sure we're ripe for some consolidation...

karen said...

i feel much better after that Charles Nenner link ! it is so easy for me to doubt my sanity these days.

karen said...

look at the euro today! wow.. some of the came out of the $xad, i guess.

McFearless said...

"but some people just won't listen no matter how hard you try"

TRUTH

CV said...

Dick Bove Says Chance Of Double Dip Is Now 40-60%

Oh crap... Now I'm going to have to revise my whole line of thinking...

Anonymous said...

b22-

Obama is having a great time "playing" president- after 4 years of play time however- he'll be more than ready to call it a day-

gotta roll- all have a great day

I-Man said...

@ Capt A

Will catch up on that as the day progresses, thanks.

McFearless said...

nenner, he's looking at the same technical levels basically as us and everyone else....if we are going to say too many people are following the H&S and therefore it didnt' play out...then we may as well be honest about this 1150 target.

it's gone mainstream...

McFearless said...

CV,

I know everyone in the public eye is in this big circle jerk to assign a percent probability to the "double-dip" but it means nothing for markets....it reminds me of when everyone was trying to tell us what inning we were in.

It's the 7th, no it's the 4th, no we are going into extra innings, it's a double header, who's on steroids...then there was Nailz.

OWEBama said...

I'm not REALLY a President, I only play one on TV...

karen said...

poor aapl! July 15 (Bloomberg) -- Apple Inc.’s senior antenna expert voiced concern to Chief Executive Officer Steve Jobs in the early design phase of the iPhone 4 that the antenna could lead to dropped calls, a person familiar with the matter said.

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a_HL._pGs2og

McFearless said...

anecdotal:

was told by a bankruptcy attorney yesterday that personal bankruptcy will rise rapidly in the second half.

we'll see.

CV said...

rabbit ears bitchez!

McFearless said...

so,....is our B wave here?

I'm still not sure

McFearless said...

"rabbit ears bitchez!"

I prefer tinfoil.

J6P said...

I'm not ready to declare bankruptcy yet, I still have a little room on the credit card before it's maxed out...

karen said...

alaidi - Philly Fed could be the catalyst for sub 3% yield & 87.20 $USDJPY $$

CV said...

@McF

I don't know how to count waves...

But if "A" was a 5 wave up... I still think this would be the sideways wedge of wave 4 (that I was asking you about yesterday)...

But that's just CV applying his own set of rules to things...

I still think we'll hang out most of the day trying to close over 1098... (3rd try)

I-Man said...

Damn, anyone see the size of that dump?!

Huge.

I-Man said...

That had to be Bucky making some noise...

I-Man said...

Keep telling I-Self as I offers are being left behind the rampant pace of Mr Market...

Its a long day, dont chase it I-Man.

karen said...

Energy Expert T. Boone Pickens Outlines Plan to Cut Foreign Oil Dependency in New Whiteboard Presentation
10:00 AM ET 7/15/10 | BusinessWire
--U.S. Spent $27.3 Billion on Foreign Oil in June

T. Boone Pickens today launched the first in a new series of whiteboard video presentations, outlining the role natural gas can play in helping to achieve President Barack Obama's campaign pledge to cut all imports of oil from the Middle East in 10 years. The video can be seen at www.pickensplan.com/whiteboard2010.

"There are eight years left on the President's campaign pledge to eliminate Middle East oil in 10 years, and we want to help him and our nation get there," said Pickens. "The Pickens Plan is the only real plan that can make dramatic progress on that goal using our abundance of natural gas as a transportation fuel. We encourage Congress and all Americans to get behind this plan now - there is no more time to waste. We have an opportunity and we need to take advantage of it."

karen said...

qvfinance
$GOOG ($488.86), 7/15/2010, current max pain strike price: $480.00. Put/Call ratio: 0.716

(aapl- max pain 250..

AmenRa said...
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McFearless said...

C,

could very well be just that. Wavers trying to count impulses are in a very trick spot right now.

On the bullish side you have people counting the rally from march 09-april 10 as a 5 wave impulse marking the end of Primary Wave 1 up. They are stating we are in Wave 2 currently or wave 2 ended with a 38% retrace of that 09-10 rally.

We've already gone over the count so I'll just point out, the sentiment behind this could make sense, wave 2 did it's job making people think the bear was back, DSI on equities dropped from 92% bulls to 17% bulls in 2 months, headlines hit the papers about how bad things were, etc. further, they can support their case saying the increase in the dollar off the lows was corrective and it's going to begin declining again.

Now you can flip all of that in reverse for those saying that the 09-10 was a triple zig zag corrective and we have started to impulse down again to start P3 down...in that case the wave down in the dollar is making everyone think the DGDF is back, but it won't be, and it also shows up in the fact that I still believe the vast majority of money managers and real WS players are bullish right now on stocks.

Both counts are in do or die territory Aug-September.

I'm leaning on AT's corrective count, right now it just seems to be the most logical count with the highest probability, it would frustrate the most people I think.

AmenRa said...

Philly Fed at 5.1 (expected was 12.1). That's two manufacturing/business reports in the toilet in one day.

McFearless said...

Is T. Boone drawing again

Well you know my name is T Boone, and I like to do drawrings.....

I'm having deja vu

I-Man said...

I hate being conservative... oh wait, nevermind... being bold is what killed me last time...

I think I'll wait for higher prices to short from.

Empire State said...

Did y'all heah what my gal Filly and I is sayin', yo?

We is sayin DOUBLE DIP y'all..!!

karen said...

80 pts to go : (

McFearless said...

anyone else here a Big Brother fan?

I'm a huge fan of this show....I know, I know...reality tv.

CV said...

Whatever frustrates the most people is usually the way the markets end up going...

Nic said...

REPO 105 *CITIGROUP SAYS IT MISCLASSIFIED $9.2 BLN ($C)

CV said...

Rory McIlroy...

63 at St. Andrews... Sick!

Leftback said...

I stayed short overnight having even added to them yesterday, in the hope that China and US data would throw Mr Market under the bus.

Probably going to cut and run here pretty soon.

CV said...

This little move down to 1083 is a little frustrating because yesterday I'd identified it as the NEXT FIBO after .009 off of 1099...

Yesterday the market held 1089.57 pretty well (few squiggles back and forth)...

McFearless said...

Nic,

So what's that btwn C and BAC now....eh...just a few billion I guess.

I continue to maintain that anyone claiming to do fundamental analysis in this environment is full of shet!

McFearless said...

C,

Is that a record there, I thought I heard the lowest score was a 64?

Leftback said...

I am flat if we bounce from here to 1090.

CV said...

Good play lefty...

Yeah, I think I'd be cutting and running here as well..

I don't think this is the "B" wave (from 1010) that many are looking for...

Leftback said...

Rory missed a shortie at 17 for bird on the ROAD HOLE... he was swinging great, and so was BIG JOHN.

McFearless said...

left, I just took the short I added at 1096 off....I still think we are going to break above 1100, if only just for a moment.

you are on a fire lately man

CV said...

I wouldn't be surprised at this point (being so close), to see some gap fillage from Tuesday's open...

That might give bulls some hope to push past 1100, (and give Lloyd & Jamie some good prices to unload)...

karen said...

a little distribution for ya:

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/trichet/ICI%20Fund%20Flow.jpg

NIC, gasping, not C, too?!

AmenRa said...

Remember Thursday is the new Friday...
Johnny hour is over.
Weekly claims couldn't break under 400k during a holiday week.
PPI -0.5% (BB pulling out the rest of his hair). JPM beats because loss loss reserves are reduced by over 50%.
Manufacturing surveys have found out that gravity is not a theory.

{clearing throat}: k-a-t-h-e-r-i-n-e! K-A-T-H-E-R-I-N-E!

CV said...

@McF

63 ties the all time record for lowest round shot in a major championship...

- Johnny Miller, 1973, Oakmont
- Brad Faxon, 1995, Riviera (CV was following at the course on that day)

Here's the list...
Masters
Nick Price, 1986, third round (9-under)
Greg Norman, 1996, first round (9-under)
U.S. Open
Johnny Miller, 1973 (Oakmont), final round (8-under)
Jack Nicklaus, 1980 (Baltusrol), first round (7-under)
Tom Weiskopf, 1980 (Baltusrol), first round (7-under)
Vijay Singh, 2003 (Olympia Fields), second round (7-under)
British Open
Mark Hayes, 1977 (Turnberry), second round (7-under)
Isao Aoki, 1980 (Muirfield), third round (8-under)
Greg Norman, 1986 (Turnberry), second round (7-under)
Paul Broadhurst, 1990 (St. Andrews), third round (9-under)
Jodie Mudd, 1991 (Birkdale), final round (7-under)
Nick Faldo, 1993 (St. George’s), final round (7-under)
Payne Stewart, 1993 (St. George’s), final round (7-under)
Rory McIlroy, 2010 (St. Andrews), first round (9-under)
PGA Championship
Bruce Crampton, 1975 (Firestone), second round (7-under)
Raymond Floyd, 1982 (Southern Hills), first round (7-under)
Gary Player, 1984 (Shoal Creek), second round (9-under)
Vijay Singh, 1993 (Inverness), second round (8-under)
Michael Bradley, 1995 (Riviera), first round (8-under)
Brad Faxon, 1995 (Riviera), final round (8-under)
Jose Maria Olazabal, 2000 (Valhalla), third round (9-under)
Mark O’Meara, 2001 (Atlanta AC), second round (7-under)
Thomas Bjorn, 2005 (Baltusrol), third round (7-under)
Tiger Woods, 2007 (Southern Hills), second round (7-under)

Anonymous said...

KD has written a bit about both the "mistaken repos" and about how the banks sold MBS they didn't have to the Fed at inflated prices (basically naked shorting) and now they have a failure to deliver. Great...the entities that would have failed w/o fed intervention then scam those who saved them. Classic. http://market-ticker.denninger.net/ Plus, more goodies at alphahorn. -Jennifer

McFearless said...

wow, he just joined a pretty exclusive list.

I saw some stats flashed for Albert P during the All Star game, I know he gets press but for how good he is, you don't hear all that much about him relative to other people.

I-Man said...

"Laugh hard, its a long ways to the bank."

-Modest Mouse

Leftback said...

On FYAH...

The 2y hit 58 bps back there... UFB... that's not a lotta yield.
FLATE that, HELICOPTER BEN.

karen said...

p&f for $tyx is 34

I-Man said...

Short.

CV said...

Do you think that Helicopter Ben and his crew stand up and sing the West Ham theme song before every FOMC meeting?

wunsacon said...

CV, right before they sing, I think they first suck in from a helium balloon.

karen said...

omelet time.. pls hold the show.. basil and hot pepper jack, i think.. avo as always and real eggs : )

btw.. this morning is one of those so cal days where even the asphalt is gorgeous.. remember them, cv?

Leftback said...

Alvin and the Fedmunks...?

I-Man said...

Oh, its about to get good again, K... might want to postpone that tasty treat until 9:15...

CV said...

Hilarious exchange over at ZH...

by Sudden Debt
on Thu, 07/15/2010 - 10:05
#470825

What is the Philly Fed? somebody inlighten me please :)

reply flag as junk (3)

by LoneStarHog
on Thu, 07/15/2010 - 10:08
#470839

http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/

reply flag as junk (1)

by CPL
on Thu, 07/15/2010 - 10:08
#470844

It's part of the fed that deals with growth projections. It's a different department office as it were. The fed that prints money hand over fist and promptly ignores the philly fed is located in DC.

reply flag as junk (0)

by LePetomane
on Thu, 07/15/2010 - 10:10
#470848

A Bernanke sandwich with cheese and onions.

Thank you, I'm here all week. Try theBernanke sandwich with cheese and onions.

Leftback said...

USDJPY seems like it should be a good trade here soon.

wunsacon said...

LOL I don't know if you ever read Calculated Risk's "Hoocoodanode" comments board. But, their comments section can be hilarious, too.

Some of the terms I've seen them use:

"Schrodinger's Bank" - A bank where the mere act of trying to measure the real value of its assets will change that value...probably for the worse.

"H.P. Loancraft" - A loan officer extraordinaire!

"Enzyte economy" - extend & pretend, baby!

"Jason Bourne market" - do not take a position without knowing where the exists are

"Garage Mahal" - a style of high-end home in California where the multi-car garages figure prominently as you first approach the home.

wunsacon said...

Er...

"Jason Bourne market" - do not take a position without knowing where the [exits] are

CV said...

I kind of miss Jeff Macke...

"any day the markets are open are a good time to short airline stocks"

I-Man said...

Volume sure falls off a cliff when the selling stops...

Pfft.

karen said...

great TraderMark post: I have never owned Citigroup (C) before and as with any stock the first time you buy, you have to get a feel for how it trades. As I anticipated Citigroup is a fancy name for "Ultra S&P 500 ETF" as deemed by HAL9000. More or less it will give you double the beta of the market... and is hostage to the XLF ETF.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/trichet/ICI%20Fund%20Flow.jpg

McFearless said...

wave off the lows doesn't look impulsive

Jeff Macke Says

Nod if you understand me

18 said...

1134 major
1116 minor (close above here bulls would rule)
1107 mid (SPX trying to get here)
1098 minor
(you are here)
1080 major
1062 minor
1053 mid
1044 minor (bears rule below here)
1026 major
1008 minor

18

karen said...

using spy.. 108 major ?

karen said...

Senate overrides filibuster threat on bank bill, assuring final passage
07/15/2010 11:34:10 AM

I-Man said...

Thats because this move off the low is being traded by computers who havent figured out that the intermediate trend has changed...

Just a hunch.

CV said...

I thought I was here...

http://blueollie.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/you_are_here_galaxy.jpg

AmenRa said...

What has Bloomberg wrought? The online tv player at the new site never plays (always have to restart) and the one at the old (aka noir) site doesn't have a signal. Plus the new layout is horrible. Is everyone there riding the short yellow bus?

McFearless said...

perhaps I'm putting some bias on with this statement, but it does seem compared to other opex that the market has expnded a tremendous amount of energy just to reach max pain...which is this case was higher...and we havent' even gotten to it yet.

since Tuesday's high we've had two lower highs and now three lower lows...S&P.

CV said...

That's because the computers know that they have to somehow pin SPY110 tomorrow

McFearless said...

wow, please excuse my spelling and gram. suppose you are all used to it by now....that's terrible.

CV said...

@Amen

Short yellow bus... LOL

Is that, like, the bus for retards?

I-Man said...

I-Man will not be out-traded by a babylon machine...

CV said...

That's mean of me to joke, but that's just too funny dude...

McFearless said...

I'd also say...earnings season, for how "good" it's been already, is not exactly off to some banging start here

INTC gives back almost all the pop after best quarter ever, YUM raises guidance, JPM in the red nearly 2%.

CV said...

@McF (11:42)

Frankly, I think it's holding on pretty well considering it had to shake off a horrible Empire & Philly Fed...

& the only way JPM is reporting anything worthwhile is because it reduced its loss reserves...

I-Man said...

I can fuckin play 55ema reversion too, cyber monkey.

CV said...

I think if it wasn't for opex tomorrow, we'd be down a bunch...

McFearless said...

didn't bloom test that site and get opinions, everyone thinks it sucks.

sounds like my company, they love to say we have the best statement in the industry, my clients, pretty much all of them, can't read the statements

I guess in some respects though I understand then why the company says they are the best now that I've typed that out....

18 said...

@ Karen

Pretty much works out that way...

CV said...

The damn "bots" are dismantling "I&I" one dread at a time...

I-Man said...

Not at all... but not taking the gains I would be, just tightening up the scope.

If the machines want to play on our greed, we just need to tighten up our expectations.

(Or trade along w/ them... but havent got there yet.)

Keep trading the ripples, and you catch the wave.

karen said...

could this dent the euro?
zerohedge - New post: Barclays Sees European Banks Needing Over $100 Billion In Capital After Stress Tests

CV said...

I'm waiting for Goldman to "go long" the Euro to short it...

AmenRa said...

Dick Bove trashes JPM...a sign of the apocalypse.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/dick-bove-says-chance-double-dip-now-40-60

Leftback said...

I am getting flat here. Also hedging my fixed income with TBT while LB is in the care of American Airlines.

Will be in touch from Denmark, somehow, perhaps I can send email to the I-Man, when LB has something cogent to say. I will be reading...

CV said...

Take that Jesse Jackson...

Cavalier fans want to pay Dan Gilbert's $100,000 fine

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Cavalier-fans-want-to-pay-Dan-Gilbert-s-100-000?urn=nba,255969

While Dan Gilbert's rage in Comic Sans didn't do him any favors with David Stern, Jesse Jackson or Miami Heat superstars, it did win over some pretty important people — Cleveland Cavaliers fans.

Distraught by the loss of their marquee player, Cavs fans embraced Gilbert's guarantees and disgust with LeBron James(notes).

Now they're taking things a step further than just agreeing with him — they're helping him.

karen said...

housing post at TBP by someone with some common sense:

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/07/the-4-trillion-dollar-question-2/

and from the economist on singapore as I saw it mentioned somewhere that those etfs might be a good bet:

Singapore’s export-based economy grew by 19.3% in the second quarter year on year, partly because manufacturing expanded by 45.5% on an annual basis. Such impressive growth is unlikely to last: the economy is projected to slow down in the second half of 2010 as austerity measures and a curb in spending take a toll on demand in the European Union and America.

CV said...

Have a good trip LB...

bob said...

LB, fly fast and stay low

Leftback said...

CH Smith on housing. This guy is on a roll this week:

Housing Basics: Massive Supply, Faltering Demand

Leftback said...

Karen,

That was an excellent post at TBP. LET IT FALL.....

People don't see that the crisis was the bubble, not the bust.
Once the price discovery is OVER, then it's the NEW NORMAL...

Anonymous said...

for b22-

The Rally is Meaningless

inside this article we find:

Prechter . . .reported-

"In 2008, 34 years after my band made an LP, I started getting calls from collectors wanting copies. To make a long story short, a collectors' label called Yoga Records has decided to release the album on CD and digital download."


a must have for any EW aficionado's record collection

I-Man said...

Ahab, replied to you.

arbitrage789 said...

“Indulge in babes, bikinis, & blow”.

Sounds like good advice.

karen said...

while on the RE subject, from Jim the Realtor and the WSJ:

"U.S. senators or Senate employees received 30 loans—far more than had previously been known—under a controversial lending program at Countrywide Financial Corp. that provided cut-rate terms to favored borrowers."

http://www.bubbleinfo.com/2010/07/15/more-vip-stink/

Anonymous said...

@I (or ALL)

What kind of odds would you give SPX going to 1000 sometime next week.

I'll tally up the vote later...

Nic said...

LB - You are going to put I-Man in charge of the piggy? Good show and have a good trip.

I-Man said...

1009 on ES is a level I have tagged as a possibility for Monday, 1006 for tomorrow if things get real nasty.

But thats just a potential outcome...

I still have some higher prints floating around up there that could be tagged next week.

However, if we move higher, then I think it only sets the stage for lower lows later this month, around the 26-29th timeframe.

I-Man said...

I and I no check fi no swine...

;)

CV said...

Well all I can say is those VIX traders on Topstep who were buying puts aren't looking too good...

I-Man said...

I'd like to see ES make a 1165 print early next week, and then I think it all falls into place.

arbitrage789 said...

Anon @ 12:53

1000 by next week? Unlikely.

However, anything's possible in August or September.

I-Man said...

I think those VIX traders got gamed by some unscrupulous advice... or some unscrupulous rumor mongering... or the memory of last July.

McFearless said...

Left,

Have a safe trip.

Ahab,

I'm buying one....thanks man. I'll let you guys know if it's any good, i know he played drums, but I also hear he sang so I'm interested to hear what his voice sounds like.

karen said...

can't tell if fxe just got kick started or is taking last gasp..

McFearless said...

if the pulse of the market is its volume, this patient is dying a slow death, today is further illustration of weak volume on the way UP, and real volume on the way down....been happening since April.

I-Man said...

CV's on it with the pin at SPY 110... starting to see some shenanigans in the offers...

That with the grind higher says that the options need a higher print for tomorrow.

Anonymous said...

b22-

here we go Pretcher in the band News- album- Hot Off The Press w/ samples-

$1.11 per tune or 6.99 for the album

McFearless said...

if we break 1,100 I'm going to look at a possible short of BA.

Lord John said...

And a nice photo of Prechter in action in 1974 from the Yoga records blog:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_l46yzkFqV91qb5kflo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1279300475&Signature=ALcLry0%2BCrqHpFW8komW1MO4Ius%3D

McFearless said...

ahab,

that's not that bad really, that song loser sounds a little like Allman Brothers.

how hilarious the band is called NEWS.

I-Man said...

Close higher... its in the bag.

McFearless said...

looks like a ludwig kit he's on...that picture is classic.

Anonymous said...

b22-

pretty sure that is Prechter talking in "Radio Blahs"

the song "Angie" is not bad

McFearless said...

I, the sell-off wasn't very impressive, we held support, more pain for bears into tomorrow, I agree.

McFearless said...

that album was too clean for 74 if you consider the other stuff coming out around then.

Mannwich said...

Bear trap here?

McFearless said...

it would only make sense to be long XLF now that fin reg passed right?


http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/07/here-comes-fin-reg/

Anonymous said...

LJ-

that picture of Pretcher is a scream-literally- I wonder if he's screaming "seelllllllllllllll you bitchez- selllllllllll"

McFearless said...

Manny,

bears probably got trapped btwn 10-11 my time, now they are just going to throw up.

Mannwich said...

Exactly ben. Thankfully, I'm just a spectator right now. Can't stomach it.

McFearless said...

Fed balance sheet and money supply at 4:30 today...

BinT said...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39763.html

New rules: Free preventive care

...Yep. "Free"

CV, will you accept higher rates to pay for the free obesity screening for Leftback? As Mr. Rogers would have said, " I knew you would..."


Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose...

karen said...

Bruce, LOL, but I also followed the link.. how fast do we leave the country? or will all this be reversed by the next administration? and will they demand that I attend church on Sundays ?

karen said...

That RP foto reminds me of a young Mick Jagger.

McFearless said...

church on Sunday's?....probably not in the traditional sense

CV said...

@Lord John

That picture is classic!

It immediately went on the spool for CV's new avatar...

arbitrage789 said...

B_in_T @ 1:39

Paying more so that others can get free screening is the least of my concerns.

The bigger issue is that it's going to cost a lot of money to pay for all those fat pigs who have diabetes and heart disease.

(Then there's all the HIV-infected people to pay for).

McFearless said...

I've known plenty of people that had heart disease or diabetes that were not "fat-pigs"

CV said...

@BinT

I'm just kickin' it with the...

OWEBAMACARE = "Just don't get sick" plan...

CV said...

I hope too many dems don't get tossed out...

I wouldn't NASCAR to become our national sport or anything...

arbitrage789 said...

McF @ 1:51

No doubt that's true. But obesity does dramatically increase the risk of contracting certain diseases, and the question is who should pay for diseases that people brought on themselves.

Mannwich said...

I DO think that more preventive care is a GOOD idea, but that people who live unhealthy lifestyles SHOULD pay more for their care. I think this would be common sense, especially among the "personal responsibility" crowd, no? Anyone who's overweight, eats poorly, doesn't exercise, smokes, and/or just lives an unhealthy lifestyle should not have those lifestyles subsidized by others. It's all about the right incentives. I say literally PAY people cash to be healthy. Why not?

Mannwich said...

@ben: That's true, and as someone who has a chronic disease through no fault of my own, I can attest that not all health issues are within one's control. However, studies show that up to 70% of today's health issues ARE indeed within our own control. That's undeniable.

CV said...

"I DO think that more preventive care is a GOOD idea, but that people who live unhealthy lifestyles SHOULD pay more for their care. I think this would be common sense, especially among the "personal responsibility" crowd, no? Anyone who's overweight, eats poorly, doesn't exercise, smokes, and/or just lives an unhealthy lifestyle should not have those lifestyles subsidized by others. It's all about the right incentives. I say literally PAY people cash to be healthy. Why not?"

---

Gee... Sounds to be like a good idea for governments to NOT become involved in socialized medicine...

karen said...

DL, did you catch the Singer aapl chart i posted for you yesterday? 80

Anonymous said...

hey- check out this handsome fella-

http://events.fitnessfestival.com/rimini2002/WLZ/video/int_chet_vien_ing.mpg

Karen, Nic and Jennifer- please- no swooning

arbitrage789 said...

The airlines tried charging fat people extra. I don't know exactly where that stands, but the fat people filed lawsuits, and made a big stink.

karen said...

fxe turning down again.. slightly that is. not sure what (or whom) to curse today : )

arbitrage789 said...

Karen @ 1:57

Didn't see it. When did you post it?

Mannwich said...

It's a fair point, cv, but I don't care who gets involved or doesn't get involved (that's a red herring, as the current system sucks and everyone knows it except for those making fistfuls of money off of it), but whomever is controlling our health care system should be setting the right incentives.

Our health care system is designed to TREAT disease, not prevent it. Now why is that? Think about it for a second. Is there more money in it for the industry if everyone were healthy? I think you know the answer to that one.

The insurers should be doing a better job incenting preventive care and healthy behaviors. It's clearly in THEIR interests to do that. More care isn't necessarily better care.

CV said...

@ahab

They ordered me to act retarded and like I was on crack :-)

karen said...

ahab.. i found that video a long long time ago, laughing. i'm something of an internet sleuth..

DL, it is at singer's site.. i'll repost it for you for fun.

Mannwich said...

Do you think Medtronic, for example, wants FEWER instances of heart disease?

Again, we are amazing at treating PREVENTABLE diseases once people have them. Now why is that? Follow da money.

karen said...

CV, you are just a high energy fellow! we knew that!

McFearless said...

guys, I'm not disagreeing that some of these "fat-pigs" couldn't be taking better care of themselves, but we have social medicine now and it's not going away, so the more outcry like "I'm not paying for these fat pigs" the closer we get to be told how to eat:

http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/28/michelle-obama-to-wield-influence-over-the-america%E2%80%99s-diet/

I'm not going to keep asking for the few freedoms I have left to be taken away....

karen said...

DL, aapl for you:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_r47sOI__h_M/TC8g2TxZSXI/AAAAAAAACG8/ABVYN6SXGyo/s1600/sc%5B2%5D.png

Mannwich said...

@ben: People can choose to be fat, dumb and lazy all they want but they should also face the repercussions of that, which means higher bills at the clinic.

It's no different than being an idiot with one's money in the market, right? If you do that, you DESERVE to lose it, no?

arbitrage789 said...

McF,

If people want to sit around eating pizza and ice cream all day, that's just fine with me. I just don't want to have to pay their health care bills.

arbitrage789 said...

K @ 2:02

Thanks. I do have an interest in the company's products, and in the stock price, although I don't own either one.

Anonymous said...

CV-

that's funny- I was sending I-Man an email from my from my "call me ahab" email address and I saw an email from a while ago- FF days- from Chet Vienne-

did a quick search adding the word fitness- and alas- there you were-

needless to say- I started working out immediately-

you're enthusiasm was that infectious

Mannwich said...

I do agree that the feds shouldn't be mandating what we eat, but promoting healthy behaviors isn't that bad of an idea, especially if our health care rates are based on pooling of risk. Carrots and sticks. It's funny but the crowd that wants to do anything it likes, which includes unhealthy behaviors, in the name of some "libertarian" credo, isn't all the consistent when it comes to actually paying the repercussions of that behavior personally. They're all too happy to pool their risky behaviors with others who don't display the same risky behavior if that means it's good for THEM. It's that hyposcrisy and inconsistency by the libertarian crowd that continually discredits them, IMO.

McFearless said...

Manny,

2:03: I didn't support universal health care/socialized medicine....enough said.

we could have let them live with the repercussions, now we can't, so it's a moot point.

BinT said...

Wonderful long weekend ahead. The article about free screenings is, as you would expect, showing us that this administration is about government control of everything than offering something to the citizeny. Let me explain something to you guys. There is nothing free in healthcare. If the government mandates "free" screenings, the general policy costs will go up to cover this, and it will absolutely increase the cost. I have never had a diabetes screen. I don't need one. I don't have diabetes. I haven't had a blood glucose in 30 years. "Yes, but you should have one to be sure.." Oh, really? Why? No nocturia, no weight loss, not obese, no family history, etc and etc.
Why should my policy, if I am CV, have to go up for breast cancer "free" screenings?

Perhaps Ayn Rand was just 50 years ahead of her time...I mean, really, Obama is going to go down as the worst president of all time, and maybe not just because of his socialism, but because he was so inexperienced and filled with so much attitude he was destined to fail before his first day.

I-Man said...

Weird shit in the market today...

Mannwich said...

Exactly, DL! See, you and I DO agree on some things. What's this world coming too? ;-)

CV said...

@Manny

Look... I already hate the fact that:

- I pay too much in auto insurance because other people get into wrecks
- I pay too much in homeowners insurance because other people build their houses on earthquake fault lines, in hurricane alley, and on swamps
- I pay too much in taxes because the state governors and lawmakers mis-appropriate funds, and line their own pockets with fat pensions & benefits

At least there are still a few things I can control...

- Even if I have to pay for electricity from the grid, I can shut off lights and keep usage to a minumum
- I can collect rain from the roof and store it in barrels to offset my watering needs
- and other things

So all things considered...

Last thing I need is to "join in" on some kind of national healthcare premium... I'd rather just RISK IT on my own...

I-Man said...

I'm all for a fat tax.

But I'm also all for the complete destruction of our political system, so cant have it both ways I guess.

Mannwich said...

@ben: But they weren't really suffering the consequences in the prior (current) system, as their risky behaviors are pooled in groups with those who display less risky behaviors. Where are the repercussions in the current system? I don't see any. All of our rates are going up regardless of whether or not you or I are the healthiest people in the country.

McFearless said...

DL,

You are missing my point, I don't want to HAVE TO pay for it either, take a look around man, but I'm more willing to suck it up and pay more instead of giving up another choice that I currently have....if you keep asking for the government to regulate every aspect of your life I'm sure they will be more than happy to do so.

BinT said...

The whole idea comes down to government care in 4 years, and my business manager and I talked about the future of health care when Obamacare fully kicks in.

If you are working, you won't like it.
If you are retired, you won't like it.
Most of us, we will gradually, grudgingly accept less and less optimal care.

Put it in your book.

arbitrage789 said...

McF @ 2:07

"we could have let them live with the repercussions, now we can't, so it's a moot point"

..............

I don't know what you mean by a "moot point".

The HC bill is probably going to be one of the top two issues in the 2012 election.

I-Man said...

Get long a homeopathic MD who accepts cash and knows how to hunt for medicinal herbs.

Mannwich said...

Me-thinks that a little sticker shock at the clinic (not a $20 co-pay either) will often FORCE people to get their ass in the gym and start losing weight. Usually people respond to the right incentives - one being money, the other being immediate death if you don't do it.

Anonymous said...

DL-

what about people who sky dive, rock climb, roller skate, skateboard, surf, bicycle, do gymnastics, base jump, jump off the high dive-

what about those people- should we pay for them?

where do you draw the line DL- must we all sit in our homes keeping ourselves from danger, eating right- lest we get hurt or get sick and cause society a big medical headache?

pretty silly right?

Mannwich said...

And I'm NOT a fan of the HC bill, btw. I think there were/are far more effective ways of fixing the system if they REALLY WANTED TO FIX THE SYSTEM. They don't because it would cost at least one group or more a whole lot of dough if they did that. But it would have helped the rank and file American public, who our political leaders couldn't care less about. Why does insurance have to be involved in every transaction? Can anyone even answer that question?

Mannwich said...

@ahab: Don't people who do those things pay more in life insurance premiums? Aren't those questions asked?

karen said...

Mr. TopStep: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egPIUpWugH0

arbitrage789 said...

Ahab @ 2:13

For me, it's a practical issue, not a moral one. The total amount of money that we spend on accidents from sky diving and rock climbing injuries is less than a small drop in the bucket.

But the amount of money spent on "fat pigs" and HIV-infected people is MASSIVE.

Anonymous said...

I'm all for a fat tax . . .But I'm also all for the complete destruction of our political system

so if you had to choose- which is it

fat tax- or complete destruction of our political system(-:!!!

Mannwich said...

Bingo again, DL. This is your industry, correct?

CV said...

If the market would "base jump" or "jump off the high dive" next week...

CV would pay a small co-pay to see that happen...

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