Weekend Edition - AFC/NFC Championships

Sunday (not Staurday), will be both the AFC & NFC Championship games... So, Saturday you Romans will have to contentent yourself with college hoops, and, um "politics" (as the case may be)...

Our Emperor, the mighty  Baruckus Obummus (otherwise known as Commodus II), has decided to enter the center ring of the Collisseum one more time to insure that all the attention of this grand spectacle is centered upon his hallowednesship, and not the games themselves...

He's come out in verbal support of the "Chicago Bears" (I suppose, geographically speaking, we can all understand why - but then why is he only so vocal about these Chicago teams?)... Why not the "Hawaii Warriors" (island of his, um, birth... or the Harvard Crimson... School of his, um, alma mater... What about the Kenyan whatever their mascot is, [presumably named after the "ringer" brought in to win this MASH 4077 football game])?...



Anyway - If the Bears win tomorrow, "the ball thrower outer in chief" has said that he'd be the first "sitting" POTUS to attend a Superbowl... Frankly, if it was me, I'd still just watch it in my MAN CAVE...


I mean, does the US taxpayer need to spend another couple of hundred million providing transportation & security detail for you, your family, & your "most melo's" to go to Dallas? What a waste of a fucking MAN CAVE!

Anyway - I'm going to add some "football thoughts" to this thread before Sunday, but I find myself a little backed up "chore wise" for an early Saturday morning... So my basic thoughts are the following:

I like the Packers to advance (nothing to do with Obama or Bears)... I'm "mixed" on who will advance between the Steelers & Jets (which makes it obvious that I'll be taking the JETS & the points)...

I'm probably going to do the HARDEST thing of all though... The PACKERS were CV's "preseason" pick to go to the Superbowl (my AFC pick, RAVENS, got knocked out last week)... I'm going to take the BEARS (and the points) in this NFC Championship...

Sunday, January 23rd

 Green Bay Packers at Chicago Bears (3:00 EST)
Line: Packers by 3.5

There were quite a lot of comments yesterday about the "perceptions" of this game and how it will play out... Add to that fire, the constant dissection of 'X's & 'O''s during the week and I'd say botht todays games have been fully sliced and diced...

Sportscasters really make me laugh... I swear... If I come back in a next lifetime (where the "Empire" has declined into the phase of BREAD & CIRCUSES 24/7 (like the "Romans" before us, and the "Americans" of today), I think the best JOB SECURITY (besides a politician or banker) would be a sportscaster... They're just there to re-inforce what you THINK you already know... All they do is make it "sound" a little fancier by tossing in a little terminology here or there...

If I hear Jaworski talk about "seeing the field clearly", or "going through his progressions", or, God forbid, hearing him say "National Football League" one more time, I think I'm going to throw my shoe through the TV set... Vegas should have an "OVER/UNDER" on the number of times Jaworski says "National Football League" on any given telecast... I'll be the linesmaker on that... Let's start with 10,000 (and I'm taking the "over")... Even worse is Merrill Hoge with his "FACTOR BACKS"... I swear... If Merrill Hoge is a commissioner of a fantasy football league, you can bet that the lineup configuration is 14 "factor backs" and a fucking kicker...

Anyway... What you HARDLY hear, ever... is talk about the pointspreads... I "miss" the 1970's (when CBS featured Jimmy "the Greek" Snyder with a pretty good look at the Vegas angle on games [Phyllis George - former Miss Texas & Miss America was pretty easy on the eyes too - jeez, I was only a teenager, but she was my first MILF crush even tho she was technically still a "Miss"])...


"The Greek", got kicked off CBS because of what was interpreted as some "racist" remarks (which I won't get into, but it was silly - even Irv Cross [also in the above foto had said he'd worked alongside Jimmy and never ever detected any racist attitudes or bias])... What's funny to me is, now, 30 years later (and 40 years after the civil rights movement), it would appear to me that people are more sensitive THAN EVER to "stereotypes"... Even on this blog... I try to say what I think... For example, I'm not a Michael Vick skeptic because he's black, I'm a skeptic because he killed and tortured dogs, spent some time in prison, and is now all of a sudden a megalo-superstar in the NFL... I think its too soon to make a judgement as to whether he's "changed" and can be a positive influence... Let's put it this way, I doubt he'll go back to killing dogs, but why? Because he discovered the profound ERROR IN HIS WAYS, or, because if doing that "costs" him from making $100 million dollars in the NFL?... His biggest fan... "The dog killer pardoner in chief"? I have no particular bias because of his race... But I DO (and did) take exception to his inexperience for the job he aspired to... & it's not so much that (because, really, NOBODY could ever think to have the experience ready to do a job like that)... But it is the "culture" of NOT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY that he brought to the office... Just when America was in the moment in time that everyone needed to lace their boots and get to work, INSTEAD, America elects this "primadonna" who is only infatuated with his own stardom, and has the instincts to BLAME everything on everyone else... Then, when his popularity wanes, what does he do? He latches on to guys like "Vick" (or the Bears), or anything that's in the media to divert attention from his shortcomings... As I'd mentioned once before... Where was Obama (on the Vick subject) during 2009??? Hmmm? Oh, well, the PUBLIC was mostly still AGAINST the eagles & Vick back then, so Obama was in "stay away" mode...

Anyway - I digress from sportscasters, and prognosticators... ESPN has this guy named 'Hammerin' Hank' (Greenberg) who, I suppose, does his best to be a Jimmy the Greek impersonator... I actually call him "HAMMERED HACK" (because his picks usually end up somewhere in the middle ground between Cramer - Leonard the Monkey - and Pin the Tail on the Donkey)... But at least he talks about the lines... The SWAMI (Chris Berman, of ESPN) comes out with picks in his "2 minute drill" (where he actually pro-offers a SCORE)... So at least someone who knows what the actual line of a game is can figure out which side Berman is on... I often actually LIKE Berman's calls (because he's not afraid to take underdogs - which most talking heads hardly ever do)... Jimmy the Greek (who goes way back) was once famous (legend has it), because he laid BIG MONEY on "Truman" defeating "Dewey" (and got 17:1 odds on it)...

So lastly... Forget about the 'X's' & 'O''s here... I hope (in my writings), that CV gives you a little deeper insight as to the murky underworld of sports betting... Anybody could tell you that the Packers have a potent offense and are on a roll... I'm looking for those "ticks on the tape" that DON'T fit the headlines... Here are a few for the Packers - Bears...

"THOUGHT ANGLES"

- The Bears are the No. 2 seed AND the winner of the division... But they're 3-point home dogs to a No. 6 seed... That's DISRESPECT (which can't help but to "filter in" to a players mindset)...


- The Packers could be overconfident... After last week, Vegas marked them with the shortest odds of "going all the way" (and winning the Superbowl)... Everyone EXPECTS them to win now... Rodgers, in his post-game press conference told all the reporters that he just had his best performance ever as a QB... It's VERY HARD to duplicate that in successive weeks in the NFL... Just saying... I'm not saying he's going to "stink it up" here... But when things fall from "firing on all cylinders", there's the potential for that to degrade into QUICKSAND (as most athletes will tell you)...


- Now consider this (on the QUICKSAND meme)... Teams coming off wins of 21-plus points in the playoffs are 4-9 against the spread in their next game since 2002... (edge BEARS)
- In the Bears-Packers rivalry, the Home Team has won 6 of the last 7 meetings. (edge BEARS)
- Packers are 28-14 ATS on the road under Mike McCarthy. (edge PACKERS)
- Jay Cutler is 25-42 ATS. (edge PACKERS)

I'm going to go with the Packers winning this game and advancing to the Superbowl... But I'm going to take the BEARS (and 3.5 points) for (2 units)...



 New York Jets at Pittsburgh Steelers (6:30 EST)
Line: Steelers by 4 (line moved from 3.5)

Before I get to making a final pick on this, a few notes... The line has moved from the Steelers giving 3.5 to the Steelers giving 4... 56% of the money was already on the Steelers (so this phenomenon is described as Vegas "chasing" the line)...

Vegas doesn't always CHASE the line... In fact, CV's "favorite" betting angle is when about 70+% of the money is on a FAVORITE, then Vegas moves the line down (effectively - giving you less incentive to take the dog, as it wants money piled up on one side)... You can almost be SURE that something shady is doing on (but it normally happens on games of no consequence)... That is hardly the case here...

The OTHER reason you get line movements is to protect the TEASER scenarios... In a two team teaser, someone can move the line 6 points in either direction... If that happens, there are no PUSH scenarios... IOW, by moving the line to STEELERS (-4), if you decide to put the Steelers into your tease (thus - taking the Steelers (+2)... You're going to LOSE the entire tease if you win the other gane (Bears - Packers), and the Jets win 9-7 here... (Before, you'd have had the STEELERS +2.5 in that scenario, and won your tease)...

This makes me think that Vegas thinks that this is going to be a close game... Remember - I'm not saying that this (or any games) are "fixed"... I'm just talking of the probability of occurrence...

So let's say there's an 80% chance that this game will be closely contested... Perhaps there's a 5% chance also that Mark Sanchez tosses 3 picks in the first quarter and the Steelers are up 3 scores by halftime... But football is funny... Last week, the Ravens were up 21-7 against the Steelers at halftime (as 3.5 point dogs)... They turned the ball over 3 times in the 3rd quarter!!! And they were NOT a particularly "turnover happy" team... Flacco had hardly tossed any picks for the previous 10 weeks, and Ray Rice had not fumbled all year... Funny things happen in football...

I also like to look at POTENTIALS... The "potential" Super Bowl Matchups are as follows...

Green Bay - Pittsburgh
Green Bay - Jets
Chicago - Pittsburgh
Chicago - Jets

NONE of those presents a particularly lopsided wagering angle for the Superbowl (UNLESS, say, Green Bay "blows out" the Bears here... In which case, they'd most likely be OVERVALUED for the SuperBowl as they are so modestly here)...

It would probably go something like:

Green Bay (-2) vs. Steelers
Green Bay (-4) vs. Jets (remember - the Packers beat the Jets in the regular season in NY)
Steelers (-2) vs. Bears
Bears (-2) vs. Jets (Bears beat Jets on a snowy day in Chicago during regular season)

When viewed from that lens, it's likely that ANY combination would likely attract somewhat even money (or - anything WITHIN a 60% - 40% ratio)...

So what I'm saying is... CALL 'EM AS YOU SEE 'EM... Vegas is most likely just happy taking the VIG from here on thru...

THOUGHT ANGLES

- The Jets won in Pittsburgh this year (but remember - Troy Polamalu wasn't playing)... In "same-site" rematches in the playoffs, Since 2002, the victors are 17-10 straight up; 4-2 if we're talking about a road winner... (edge JETS)


- Rabid Dog Trend: Teams coming off a straight-up win in the playoffs as underdogs of seven or more (as Jets were to Patriots last week), are 6-2 against the spread the following week since 2002... (edge JETS)

- The Steelers aren't built to blow out good teams... Results against ALL of the playoff teams they've battled this year: Won by 6 over Atlanta; lost by 3 to Baltimore; lost by 10 at New Orleans; lost by 13 to New England; won by 3 over Baltimore; lost by 5 to the Jets; won by 7 over Baltimore... (edge JETS)

- Jets are 13-7 ATS on the road since 2009... (edge JETS)

- Jets are 10-5 ATS as underdogs since 2009... (edge JETS)

- Steelers are 23-9 ATS in December home games since 2000... (edge STEELERS)

- Ben Roethlisberger is 8-3 ATS in the playoffs (5-2 as a favorite)... (edge STEELERS)

I'm going to go with the JETS for (3 units)...

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If someone wants a more limited risk exposure (and wanted to get action on BOTH games), I'd consider a BEARS - JETS tease... You'd be getting...

BEARS (+9.5)
JETS (+10)

37 comments:

Bruce in Tennessee said...

I agree CV. The Bears got much better quarterback play for the last 2/3 of the season than the way he had played up to that time, including previous seasons. However Green Bay has a quarterback that apparently just needed Favre to leave to play consistently with the rest of the upper tier quarterbacks in the league. I will expect Green Bay to win by more than 10.

CV said...

On QB's...

Rodgers has a 2-1 playoff record (all road games)... But he has 9 TD passes vs. 1 interception and has averaged more than 350 yards throwing in those games...

Cutler is now 1-0 (home game against the Seattle Seahawks - whoop de damn do... That game was closer than the score would indicate, as Jordan Babineaux dropped what would have surely been a pick 6 (causing a 14 point swing early in the game)...

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To put Rodgers into perspective (his 2-1 record)... Mr. Wonderful "Tom Brady" is 0-3 in his last 3 postseason games...

2011 Jets (home game - in Foxboro)
2010 Ravens (home game - in Foxboro)
2009 Superbowl (vs. NY Giants)

Just saying...

CV said...

In the other game...

Mark Sanchez may be criticized as being young and inexperienced...

But under Sanchez, the Jets are 4-1 (all road games) in postseason play...

He also beat the Steelers (on the road) in the regular season this year...

Andy T said...

Was reading somewhere that huge public money is on the Packers....

Retail is fully backing the Pack.

When that line came out, it told me "Take Green Bay."

What the hell....I'm rolling with the "herds" this game.

I like the Jets to advance....

Andy T said...

That was nice of Obama to come out a commit to going to the Super Bowl.

Wonder who's tickets he'd be stealing? Wonder who gets pushed out?

Wonder who much that would cost the public?

Genius....

CV said...

@Andy T

66%-34% (public money on Green Bay) as we speak...

No line movement...

I don't think Vegas really cares (because the money line %'s are on the Bears taking the odds - and the OVER/UNDER (43) is 55-45...

Bottom line?

Vegas would...

- Do BEST if the Packers won, Bears covered, and the UNDER came in...

- Middle it if the Packers won and covered with the under coming in...

- Get dinged (only a little), by a Packers COVER, with an OVER...

Bottom line?

Not a TERRIBLE exposure in any direction...

I think the thing to do is to look at the above scenarios, and play the "lopsided" view on how that came in on Jets-Steelers...

And as always... When in doubt... TAKE THE POINTS (no matter how your allegiance lies)...

CV said...

...on that last comment "TAKE THE POINTS"...

That's ALWAYS the most amusing to me in my experience in watching the behavior patterns of the public "betting" on sports...

They's MUCH rather side with THE HERD (in most cases), and are therefore leisurely about the way they dole out points...

It's EXACTLY the same as th behavior in financial markets...

They'd rather MAKE THE BET, that THE BERNANK, & Co. have everything under control... They "lay the points" on the economy will thus come back based on this exquisite wizardry & central planning...

Amazing study of human psychology...

Anonymous said...

I'll take the 3.5 and Chicago

Anonymous said...

as a follow up-

the Green Bay offensive line isn't all that- and they have zero running game-

Rodger's better hope his ability to evade tackles holds up (against Julius Peppers and a Chicago defense)-

also- Chicago has a special teams that can make plays-

I'm glad to see Jaws is picking Chicago as well

Anonymous said...

44 or no, I'm liking Chicago + the pins..

GB has been Hot, and all, but "-3.5" in Chicago? that seems pretty raw..

43 on the O/U is looking Low, too..

what the O/U on the AFC tilt?

AAIP

Anonymous said...

the Insight that 'the Public' is "laying points" on the Economic Recovery-bet is a good one..

ibid.

Anonymous said...

looks like 38 1/2

01/23 6:30 PM
305 N.Y. Jets
306 Pittsburgh
AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME CBS
38½
-3.5 -115 38½u-110
-3.5 -110 38½u-110
-4 -110 38½
-3.5 -110 38½u-110
-3.5 -120 38u-110
-3.5 -115 38½
-3.5 -110 38½u-110
-3.5 -110 38½u-110
-3.5 -110
http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

Anonymous said...

the AFC matchup is a tough one, for me..

I like Tomlin over Ryan

Sanchez, as a youngun', moreso than #7 of the Black & Yellow..

and, frankly, the J-E-T-S "storyline", better than Pittsburgh's

so, I'll go Green & White (+ the pins)

it's pretty hard taking the U, here, too, isn't it?

AAIP

Anonymous said...

Foghorn,

Longhorn Porn..

http://dailybail.com/slideshows/texas-photos/8206501

Andy T said...

Longhorn Porn...

Love it. That's what America's all about...goddamit!

Anonymous said...

AT,

what about this
http://dailybail.com/slideshows/texas-photos/8206495

coming back into Style?

ya know, with this
http://search.yippy.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&v%3Asources=webplus&v%3Aproject=clusty&query=Republic+of+Texas

there's a lot of, potential, support for such..

AAIP

Anonymous said...

Imagine my dismay to discover that Texas Tech really doesn't have a women's swim team.

CV said...

MORE DETAILED GAME WRITE-UPS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED IN THREAD AVOVE

Anonymous said...

Re the Monday night football crew-

Gruden gets on my nerves- not even sure why-

maybe they can get Olberman in the booth

Bruce in Tennessee said...

Not Olberman! Ahab, son! Put that mind-altering drug down, and step toward the light!

..Giggle, I hope. Frankly, I think pundits on both the right and the left have gotten increasingly strident as the years go by. I cannot listen at this point to either. Both seem to blame the other end of the political spectrum for everything...

I did enjoy Olberman when he and Dan used to do their little show, but I doubt he'd be like that now.

Put Big Jaw or Hair in the booth...

Anonymous said...

Re: Porn
Nice.
A full Texas Twist. More porn here
http://www.starcreekranch.com/brood/index.html

I like the Bears and Jets in today's action.
CV talked me off GBay.

How ya doin' Hoffer?

Anonymous said...

Has anybody else noticed how STUPID the Gumball brothers get as they age?
The older one did games for the NFL network the first year.
Unbearably terrible.

foghorn

Anonymous said...

More porn
http://stottshideawayranch.com/Default.aspx?AnimalID=2138&Name=ZDKELLY&sid=161

This is the sire of my oldest cow.

foghorn

Anonymous said...

He is sporting an 80 and 1/8 inch horn spread these days.

foghorn

wunsacon said...

I want GB to win it all. But, as we know, against good defenses, passing offenses are less consistent than run offenses. I'm worried their passing game will break down. And I just don't see their running game as good enough.

Also, their defense is good at stopping the pass but not the run.

...

Regardless of who wins these conference titles, it seems to me that the AFC is fielding better teams this year. Jets or Steelers? Both look good.

ben22 said...

Nice write up CV. Just got a fire going and I'm going to make a big frou frou

it's football time.

@foghorn,

I just got out the tape measure so I could see 80 and 1/8 inches

thats big........wow.

Anonymous said...

@b22
The circumference at the base of the horns would be around 18-20 inches.
They probably weigh about 150.
Huge

foghorn

Anonymous said...

"thats big........wow."

That's what she said . . .

Anonymous said...

One last thing on the horns
Pictures DO NOT do them justice, even being beside them in the pasture really doesn't.
But when you load one in the trailer and they fill that thing up.
WOW

The nose on a big bull is 8-10 inches wide.
You can make a walking cane out of its' Harry Wanger.

foghorn

Anonymous said...

On a football note.
I get my beer in Big Sandy, Lovie's hometown.

fog

Anonymous said...

Bet ya didn't know bulls have two teats tucked up around their scrotum.
Original Man Tits

fog

Anonymous said...

Who knew that texas was stolen for mexico?

And what's with the Alamo being such a texas treasure? They lost.

Anonymous said...

stolen for mejico?
que?

Anonymous said...

Foghorn,

this one
http://www.starcreekranch.com/brood/sizzler.html

like the looks of, nice 'spring, too..

this guy
http://stottshideawayranch.com/Default.aspx?AnimalID=2138&Name=ZDKELLY&sid=161

def. falls into the 'Big Bastard'-Category..

looks like some fine Stock, up the Line, too..
~~
http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=FC
http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=LC&p=d1

"Cattle", overall, should be a good bet going fwd:, esp. if one has access to decent 'bottomlands'

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bottomlands
~~

but, past that, 'not too bad~'.. ;)

AAIP

Anonymous said...

Actually we do have the free bottomlands, very rare in this state.
While those ticker prices look alright, the 'rubber on the road' is a little different, especially if you are not raising black Angus. Or black Anything.
But it is all practice anyway and I like raising the young 'uns.
Hope all is well.

foghorn

Anonymous said...

re: Black Angus premiums..

here:
http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/showthread.php?t=366340

is an interesting 'chat board' that gets to the A:
~~~
though, for 'Southern' Cattle, I'm still partial to
http://search.yippy.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&v%3Asources=webplus&v%3Aproject=clusty&query=Brangus+Simmental+crossbreds

Foghorn,

yes, things are fine..as I was saying, above, "not too bad" :)

AAIP

Anonymous said...

The tease was the play......

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