Morning Corner 12.16.11

BAC (weekly info)
-no change (below mid)
trend=no
direction=down (2 bars)
low= 5.17
rev= 7.35; mid= 6.26

BAC broke through the proverbial "5" level a few weeks ago. It's been struggling to stay above it ever since. It's below all SMA's. It's back below the 50.0% minor retrace. It still hasn't closed the gap down from three weeks ago. Plus Fitch just downgraded them again.



JPM (weekly info)
-change (above mid)
trend=no
direction=down (1 bar)
low= 28.48
rev= 36.69; mid= 32.59

JPM is not as bad as BAC. But they still have their own problems. SMA(21) has served as resistance ever since JPM went below in in May 2011. It's below all SMA's. It's holding above the 50.0% retrace (for now). Williams %R is not oversold but MACD has turned lower.



WFC (weekly info)
-change (above mid)
trend=down
low= 23.36
rev= 28.67; mid= 26.02


Unlike JPM & BAC, WFC is trending down on the weekly 3LB. In its favor is the fact that it's above SMA(21). It's back below the weekly 3LB mid after breaking above it last week. It never bested the 61.8% minor retrace in its move higher.

68 comments:

AmenRa said...

Something's off. TNX fell to 18.87 and the market is pushing higher.

ben22 said...

Ra,

Wax on wax off?

You mean like when I let the last 100 moronic and conflicted comments go and then I only respond to one of them? Here I thought I was doing that already. Sorry, I'm just not one of those people in life that can ignore the annoying kid screaming in the corner of the party for hours on end. By hour five I'd tell him to stfu and let the adults enjoy the party.

Come on, we all have to endure daily CV hovering around the very thing he supposedly hates and "freed himself from" while at the same time he states that he's got man love for Kyle Bass and Hugh Hendry, giant traders of fiat paper. On this blog you can't bring up a trade you did here, such as Q's did with gold recently, without having to hear some shit from him. I believe less than a month ago CV referred to anyone trading paper as a fool correct? Contradictory that he then admires other paper traders or "this is different" or wait, no, its more likely CV didn't really mean what he said, and the novel explanation should come any moment now......

you and me and everyone else here has even been described as a slave, anyone trading paper money is, those guys otoh are "outside the box thinkers" because they manage more paper than we all have combined, which makes them worthy, they are on TV! sometimes they are on international TV!, and then we have to sit through hearing about ONE trade one of them made, over, and over, and over again. I mean holy shit, is there no mention of the massive position Kyle Bass has in SIX as just one example? How's that place going to "hold up" once we revert back to the stone age? Or perhaps he bought all those nickles and is slowly converting the rollercoasters to nickel rides so he can ride them over and over again with his stash once it all goes down, thats probably it.

and as far as their insight, far be it from me to bring up the fact that the "script" that they have been speaking about recently was ALL laid out by that idiot Bob Prechter over 11 years ago in CTC, Kyle bass wasn't even a hedge fund manager when that was written.

Now I'm sure this will illicit another retarded response about nickles, how Bob Prechter is also worthy, something about fibos, what color Madonna's underwear were in 1988, why this is "just like" a football game, oreo cookies, and so on and so forth, a fine art of deflection on the statements that were made previously

now I promise I won't respond to anything else, I'm waxing off now, after all, I've got paper to trade, I just heard the bell there and I'm off like pavlovs dog.

AmenRa said...

ben22

Woof. Woof. Same here. I haven't forgotten that CV stays out of the market. He describes us as "slaves" because we trade the paper. Everyone is a "slave" since we don't create the paper to begin with. Even he has become a slave to the ideas of being self sufficient. There's nothing wrong with that. To each his own as they say.

AmenRa said...

VIX may have been down the last few days but SKEW has been rising. So there's some positioning in OOM options going on.

BinT said...

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/12/french-continue-with-their-anti-uk-comments/


...This is worth reading about the European situataion.

BinT said...

situation he thought he wrote..

BinT said...

Ben and Amen,

I actually met a Schwab guy whose light bulb was pretty bright this week (Monday)...I was pleasantly surprised.

I had to go do some paperwork in Knoxville, and after explaining my investment theories to him, he didn't try to change a thing. But we left the door open, so I may discuss things with him Q 6 months....

BinT said...

10 year 1.88. Stocks and bonds are coming to differnet conclusions today..

AmenRa said...

BinT

I know. I believe the bond market will be the winner when it's all said and done.

AmenRa said...

BinT

Currently 10yr low 1.872. Big institutions selling into the rally and buying bonds with the money?

AmenRa said...

I guess that rumor about a sovereign downgrade by S&P of France may have some truth to it.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure which amazes me more..

these:
5-Year Treasury 0.83 -0.03 -3.49%
10-Year Treasury 1.88 -0.04 -2.08%
30-Year Treasury 2.89 -0.03 -1.03%

or:

Natural Gas 3.1490 +0.0220 +0.70%

http://www.finviz.com/

tho, this:
http://www.finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=AZO

looks like it may 'die' @330, on the spot..~

AAIP

Anonymous said...

speaking of 'die'-ing..

http://www.finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=S&ty=c&ta=1&p=d

~2.26

ibid.

Anonymous said...

(other) Quotage..

"We must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for the living to
lead us into an act of injustice to the balance of the living. I will not
attempt to prove that Congress has no power to appropriate this money as an act
of charity. Every member upon this floor knows it. We have the right as
individuals to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but
as members of congress we have no right to appropriate a dollar of the public
money."
-- Davy Crockett
(1786-1836) American hunter, frontiersman, soldier and politician
Source: 1827, spoken on the floor of Congress concerning a proposed relief bill for the widow of a naval officer.
http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/Davy.Crockett.Quote.2201


"What shall be done with the four million slaves if they are emancipated? ... Primarily, it is a question less for man than for God -- less for human intellect than for the laws of nature to solve. It assumes that nature has erred; that the law of liberty is a mistake; that freedom, though a natural want of the human soul, can only be enjoyed at the expense of human welfare, and that men are better off in slavery than they would or could be in freedom; that slavery is the natural order of human relations, and that liberty is an experiment. What shall be done with them? Our answer is, do nothing with them; mind your business, and let them mind theirs. Your doing with them is their greatest misfortune. They have been undone by your doings, and all they now ask, and really have need of at your hands, is just to let them alone. They suffer by every interference, and succeed best by being let alone."
-- Frederick Douglass
[Frederick Baily] (1818-1895), escaped slave, Abolitionist, author, editor of the North Star and later the New National Era
Source: What Shall Be Done With The Slaves If Emancipated? Douglass' Monthly, January, 1862
http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/Frederick.Douglass.Quote.224C

AAIP

CV said...

@Amen & ben

Well... I want to thank both of you for something... I always try and try to learn something new each day so as to be prepared in case things happen to, just so happen to... stray away from the extremely fragile & delicate sliver of pH balance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PH

that humans have arrogantly wiggled themselves into...

Apparently, some (most here) believe that 'society' exists in a pH range from +7 to -7... I'm more inclined to believe that it only really exists within a very minor fraction of a decimal somewhere in the middle...

Anyway... it's from THERE that my thoughts stream...

I've got an idea... Don't treat my rantings as aggressivity... Instead - treat them as JEALOUSY...

I'm just a jealous old SOB that literally 'envies' people who can wander through the world thinking that little bits of paper are what allow humans (as a species) to survive... There is so much POWER in these little bits of paper that NOTHING... NOTHING I tell you, can ever hope to interrupt that... & of course now, it's become even easier because you don't even need the little bits of paper anymore... Just "1"'s & "0's" on a computer terminal...

Ain't life grand?

So... my lesson (note to self) today...

NEVER BRING A GUN TO A PILLOW FIGHT

CV said...

Go OTTOMan's Empire!

Anonymous said...

btw,

Who like Denver, to Win, against New England, in Denver? (this Weekend)

ibid.

BinT said...

CV,

Gold has been a horrible investment. It is only up 100% since 1980.

Why not move to a sports blog? That is obviously where your interest lies.

ben22 said...

"There's nothing wrong with that. To each his own as they say."

Ra,

well thats just it isn't it, I've got no problem with the choices CV is making, indeed to each his own, but I don't ridicule him daily for doing so.

nor do I hang around farming blogs and tell all the farmers there how stupid they are

ben22 said...

Bruce,

fwiw, I think Schwab is a really good company, good luck with that.

QQQQ said...

LMAO, i'm sorry but I really find this too funny from another thread, and if my math is correct

$1,000,000 in nickels = 110 tons (500,000 rolls)... good luck hauling that from the bank and loading it into your garage. also, the metal content for each nickel would be worth $0.0498750 right now... I understand the theory but is this really practical?

SPX, 10min, almost perfect down channel last 7 or so days

AmenRa said...

10yr new low 1.854. Somebody is running from the rally.

AmenRa said...

And just like clockwork the US markets turn down as the EU markets close.

CV said...

@ben

Since it is apparent that 'the talk' on this blog (wait - what's the slogan again?)...

"A Blog about Trading, Technical Analysis and other Super Important Things"

Well... it appears that I have mined my data incorrectly in reading that...

Who would have known that ideas towards managing onesself during a potential meltdown of a world tied together by a fractional reserve fiat system, and busting at the seams with regards to leverage, would NOT be considered by professionals in the industry as to be a "Super Important Thing"...

OK... I get it... I'll stick to football...

How bout 'dem RAIDERS

Here ben... While I was in the midst of conducting some of my 'data mining' activities (which is WHY I was up posting on this thread at 3PM last night)... I came across the following...

---

- The public is backing the Lions (-1) to the tune of 78% this weekend vs. "your" Raiders...

- Ostensibly, it's because the Raiders have gotten CRUSHED the past two weeks, and have been surpassed by Jesus himself (Tebow - Broncos) in the AFC West standings...

H-O-W-E-V-E-R (here's where data mining gets interesting)...


- The LIONS (giving a point), are only 2-6 against the spread in their previous eight games... They keep committing stupid penalties and have many key injuries on both sides of the ball...

- Teams that have lost two consecutive games by 14-plus points (Raiders qualify here) are a very solid 61-40 against the spread at home since 2002...

- If a team lost by more than 28 points and is now an underdog (like the Raiders last week), they are 57-31 against the spread since 2002, excluding Week 17 games...

As always... The data is what you want to make of it... But I'd imagine that someone like yourself (a Raiders fan seeing your playoff hopes dissolve because "God" wants the Broncos to win, and you just mortgaged the entire to the... DRUMROLL... "Cincinnati Bengals" in the form of draft picks to get Carson Palmer...

Well... GETTING a point here under those auspices may prove interesting...

---

Epilogue:

In other 'data mining' endeavors last night I learned the following:

- That Lee Harvey Oswald was the 'lone gunman' in the Kennedy assasination...

- That the UN says that 'the sun' has nothing to do with global warming...

- That the earth is roughly 6,000 years old (based on data mined from the most published and widespread read book in human history)...

- That dudes with boxcutters managed to organize themselves in a caper that took down the World Trade Center buildings (and that building 7 just collapsed all by itself as result of the shockwave of the other two)...

AMAZING STUFF you can learn when you want to be TRULY informed...

CV said...

as for this comment...

"nor do I hang around farming blogs and tell all the farmers there how stupid they are

---

Yeah, I guess I really thought about doing that once (because all I do is wake up every morning trying to think of ways to ridicule people at large)...

But then I thought... "OK, so I'm going to go to a farmer who is producing food & tell him that the WORK/SERVICE he provides is useless"...

Yeah, I'll get right to that... OK I'm WAXING OFF for now... Off to go flame some farmers...

Pinkie handshakes all around...

Anonymous said...

I'm off to the Seed Store..

ibid.

ben22 said...

"Who would have known that ideas towards managing onesself during a potential meltdown of a world tied together by a fractional reserve fiat system, and busting at the seams with regards to leverage, would NOT be considered by professionals in the industry as to be a "Super Important Thing"..."

Yes, indeed, thats in the subtitle of the blog that is called Traders Anonymous, this is also under the "about this blog" section:

"This Blog's primary focus is on TRADING based upon TECHNICAL ANALYSIS"

nobody, ever once, claimed that we weren't here to discuss positioning for fiat failure from time to time, in fact, we've discussed that more times than I can count over a 4 year period now, some of us have been thinking about it day and night for years on end now

apparently though a top priority on your list of "super important things" is to constantly point out that anyone trading the markets (again, the PRIMARY focus of the blog) in the preset to expand their capital instead of only talking about potential outcomes is a

fool
slave
jackass

whatever adjective you'd prefer......

give it up man, you are acting like an asshole when you do that

BinT said...

Well, one of the definitions of being alive is that "things change when you are alive"...unlike say, a rock.

So when I am investing, I know the fabric changes..and I like everything. Stocks, precious metals, real estate, bonds...everything.

What I have to do is be a moderately good market timer...I have to pick the flavor of the month. Can't buy tech stocks in 2002...can't buy a house in 2007..can't buy gold in 1984...can't buy Greek debt in 2008..and so forth..

I guess I have to hear and digest what others are investing in...When people keep whipping the same horse and things have changed, they lose credibility with me fast...

I see next year as another one of weakness. I am investing as I see it. You cannot buy and hold anything at this point in time with so much market manipulation going on..you simply must re-evaluate frequently..

AmenRa said...

re: Wukan Village in China

A thousand armed police attempted to enter the village on Dec. 11 and were blocked, the Daily Telegraph reported, citing a local resident. Tear gas and water cannons failed to disperse the crowd and after two hours the police withdrew and barricaded roads to the village, the newspaper said. Wukan is currently being supplied by residents of neighboring areas carrying in food across fields, the Telegraph reported.

Now that's hardcore.

ben22 said...

"I guess I have to hear and digest what others are investing in."

Bruce, I use this site on the regular, if you are interested:

http://whalewisdom.com/

AmenRa said...

10yr new low 1.839. Run Forest Run!

ben22 said...

and CV, and I do mean this

good luck in the PLAYOFFS

Booey has been in front all year, this is your chance

BinT said...

Thanks, Ben.

Took it out for a drive...then put it on my favs...

BinT said...

I think if this blog were focused on investing, we might see more of the Karens and Leftys of the world back...and I'd be in favor of that. Ranting tends to turn everyone off..discourse works...

AmenRa said...

DXY back to positive. EURUSD likely headed back under 1.30. USTs getting bought hand over foot. Fitch puts Italy, Spain, Belgium, Ireland, Slovenia, and Cyprus on ratings watch negative.

Santa is locked up deep underground.

CV said...

@ben

Thanks for the 'good luck' wish in THE LEAGUE...

As it turns out, I'm jinxing myself probably by saying this, Booey is 10-3...

Ottoman's Empire dealt him TWO of those losses (& my brothers team dealt him one)...

Anyway... whatever happens happens... As it turns out... GRANDMA dealt Ottoman's Empire one of my losses & I think Honey Badgers (Andy T) took me down twice...

So using all that logic (& if you apply it to the NFL)... Since the Seahawks & Jaguars beat the Ravens, & since the Rams beat the Saints & the Bills beat the Patriots... I guess one could make the argument that the Bills, Jags, & Seahawks are the best teams in the NFL... ror

@Bruce (12:44)

I a minute here I'm going to make another post (that is long and has to be broiken up into two parts)...

Read it & digest it for a minute... Give it a minute to settle in...

Afterwards... If you, (as you appear to be motivated to bring to the floor), think the world would be better to put a muzzle on ideas I might type into comments, & in doing so, that would bring LB & karen back into the fold... I'll bring it up to a 'committee' vote...

YAY or NAY...

Banish CV from the blog... If you people want me OUT... Then I'll gladly leave... You can "vote me off the island"... I like reading & listening to all of your ideas (even though I hardly agree with ANY of them anymore)...

But if it has come to the point where one person (ME), is causing stress & torture to all of your lives, well... I certainly don't want to do that!

As for whether or not karen or LB decide to appear out of the woodwork after that... That's up to them, but at least you wouldn't have to worry about me...

I have valid history to back up that promise... The 'other blog' that, at one point, I made a promise to leave alone... I haven't been back there (not even to READ a comment), in... I can't remember how long... It's been over a year at least...

AmenRa said...

Fitch revised its host country outlook to negative. Ce la vie.

CV said...

@Bruce

Friendly anecdote (to you)... Sorry - this isn't about "INVESTING", so it's probably of little interest to anyone...

But seriously... If you ask me who THE MVP OF THE NFL ought to be this year, you know who I'd pick???

YOUR BOY... Peyton Manning...

The 'reasoning' is obviously a bit of reverse engineering due to the fact that it's almost undeniable that the collapse of the Colts was because he wasn't there to hold things together...

Not unlike CENTRAL BANKING I suppose...

You yourself (11:57) made the comment "with so much market manipulation going on"... But wait... I thought we'd established a long time ago (on this blog) that market manipulating was not going on...

Anyway... (vis-a-vis Manning)... Jeez Louize... What a difference...

& my apologies to everyone for losing "laser like" market focus for a few seconds there DURING THE LOW VOLUME CHRISTMAS season by talking about things un-technical in nature...

My bad...

AmenRa said...

Markets trying to rally. I guess they think this will be enough to get the ECB to print. It won't.

CV said...

@Bruce

(1:24) was NOT the long post I referred to earlier...

AmenRa said...

Zynga getting zinged.

BinT said...

CV:

I don't care what you do. But, you know, I don't visit the site either like I used to because some of your posts were almost incoherent.

I liked it when the emphasis was on investing. Hell, for incoherence, I sometimes visit the Indianapolis Star sports section to see what's happening with Peyton....you don't have to know a damn thing about sports apparently to post there, many don't (I played baseball and football in HS, but not in college)...

I just think you're not going to change any minds with rants about something you believe in..doesn't work like that..you DO always make more progress with honey instead of vinegar..

AmenRa said...

3mth vs Overnite Libor Spread blowing out again. TED Spread still wider on the week.

ben22 said...

nobody wants you banished from the blog, come on

you could simply state your views/forecast whatever we want to call it without being a douche to someone that is trading something else, especially if its paper

you used to get your point across in a better way

QQQQ said...

...
what's the difference between betting $.$$ on your fav team or betting $.$$ on your fav stock?

back to work, some of us still really use shovels and work 6-4:30 jobs...

CV said...

@ben & Bruce

I hear you both (believe me I do)... & Bruce... Believe me when I say I'm not clueless to the HONEY & VINEGAR metaphor...

Remember... I constantly come at everybody with the 'reminder' that I've spent 30 years teaching group fitness... Now - BEFORE any of you come back to me with the knee jerk reaction of articulating before the jury ("Oh no - here comes THAT ONE again)... I'll say one thing...

Teaching group fitness FACE TO FACE is "you against the mob"... Hardly ANYONE has a chance to experience it unless they are a convention speaker or POLITICIAN... Admittedly - over time, you get a "God - Like" complex (mostly because, after 'repetition' of, mostly 90% of the people AGREEING with you 90% of the time (for no reason at all) - well, that's the way it goes)...

WORSE - You 'refine' your delivery over time (which - by nature, creates yet another DYNAMIC in that if individuals rise up out of the group to challenge you from time to time, you have the experience, BY REPETITION, to beat them down mercilessly because you've gained more battle experience - most people RARELY have to engage in a battle of wits with anyone else & in fact, try to avoid it at all costs)...

My one TRUE value as a person (& even in my most self flagellating moments)... Is that I'm HONEST... I'm an HONEST person & I really wish well for most people... I try to help them (mostly for FREE)... It is a true fact that I prefer teaching GROUP FITNESS to people over PERSONAL TRAINING (because group fitness is FREE)... Even though, in my career, I know I have valuable information to pass on to potential clients (& that they'd gladly PAY me for it)... I'm an idiot who TRULY BELIEVES that information like that (& as important as that) should be FREE... I ask God every day to bless me and allow me to continue to live & pay my bills (in some ways that I can not conceive) so that I can dispense FOR FREE, knowledge that I believe is important...

In this generation & with regards to this endeavor I'm the Nikola Tesla NOT the Thomas Edison...

That's why I'm a fool... &, more likely than not... I'll die BROKE (but happy) because I left it all out on the field of battle...

PS... This is still NOT the thoughts that I was referring to above... I'll get to it...

BinT said...

http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2011/12/16/all-over-the-world-people-are-yanking-money-out-of-stock-funds/?mod=yahoo_hs

"Some on Wall Street may still be hoping for a Santa Claus rally, but mutual-fund investors aren’t hanging around to find out, yanking money out of stock funds in droves and putting them into bond funds and cash.

According to new data from EPFR, global equity funds suffered outflows of $9.5 billion in the week ending December 14, their fourth straight week of net redemptions, while bond funds took in $1.1 billion and money market funds took in $3.2 billion.

Those money-market funds are on their longest inflow streak since a 12-week stretch in the fourth quarter of 2008.

“It looks like some investors are just selling out and waiting for the New Year to see how the land lies,” wrote EPFR Global Research Director Cameron Brandt. “All of the major country and regional equity fund groups, and most of the sub groups, experienced outflows this week.”

..It will be better next year.

(regrets to Peter Sellers)...

AmenRa said...

Interesting countertrend moves at 2:35 & 2:50. Trying to convince to algos to keep playing even though the algos want to pull the bid and let everyone fend for themselves. IMHO.

AmenRa said...

EURCHF under 1.22. Is someone stepping up to challenge the SNB?

AmenRa said...

Nast looking gravestone doji on the 5-min SPX chart. Needs to hold for the bulls to have any chance.

AmenRa said...

Nasty

AmenRa said...

I still think they're trying not to have a third close under the SMA(21). Past experience indicates waterfall to follow.

AmenRa said...

If S&P has anything to say about France they will do so right after the close...

cv said...

@Amen (3:45)

... or... Monday morning/Sunday Night (3:30 EST)...

Which is the normal 'modus operandi' for these MARKETS that function solely based on the participation of honest investors out seeking a profit...

cv said...

...in other news... on that subject...

I've tried 3x now to offer QQQQ an honest explanation to the (2:02)...

BLOGGER doesn't seem to like too much what I have to say...

I swear... It was REALLY an apology... (It WAS)... Color me a victim...

Anonymous said...

http://www.finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=HANS

~95.92

that puppy is haning in there..

AAIP

Anonymous said...

http://www.finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=AZO&ty=c&ta=1&p=d

~325.94 !

nice..

was, really, thinking that this would have ended at ~330..

ibid.

cv said...

@Bruce (1:27)

Before I start... Thank you (seriously) for having courteously addressed some of the things I was talking about before...

With reagrds to the subject matter...

don't care what you do. But, you know, I don't visit the site either like I used to because some of your posts were almost incoherent...

I'm sorry to hear that... Instead, I have the idea that ANYTHING... ANYONE says on this blog is worth reading & listening to (even if you don't agree with it)... It's very rare that I ever read something incoherent from ANY author (except maybe - Ritholtz - lol)... JK - what I'm really trying to say is that when I read things, I usually don't immediately devolve into the assumption that it's incoherent... (call it a "by-product" of having lived in Italy for a dozen years without ever having ANY GRASP AT ALL of the nuances of the language)... What I did, to survive, over time, was to try and ADAPT (with patience) into an understanding)... But that's just silly ol me...

I liked it when the emphasis was on investing...

Jeez - I agree with you there 100%... FWIW... Bruce... I 'liked it' better when THE WHOLE EFFIN WORLD's emphasis was on inWesting... Somehow, my VIEW on what that was all about (& how it's either been hijacked (or never really existed in the first place) has changed...

Sorry! :-(

I just think you're not going to change any minds with rants about something you believe in.. doesn't work like that.. you DO always make more progress with honey instead of vinegar...

Yeah, you're probably right... But what comes to mind are the following...

Thomas Jefferson (et al) vs. King George III (circa 1776) - Ole 'Tommy Boy' should have just gone with the 'honey' (to spare any lives & misery, right?)...

Martin Luther King (circa 1964-68)

Joan of Arc

OR... perhaps the most justifiable outspoken revolutionary of ALL TIME...

SAMUEL L JACKSON...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amYzBQMT4VI&feature=related

:-)

cv said...

@Bruce

With regards to discussing investing ideas...

& in an effort to silence MY OWN VOICE & open the floor to those who are willing to offer thoughtful advice on the subject...

Can I humbly ask how one GOES ABOUT (the above), when faced with the idea of confronting the following mined "data points"?...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/50-economic-numbers-about-us-are-almost-too-crazy-believe

I've spent a lot of time offering my ideas...

Anybody else care to chime in (so that we all may benefit from the conversation)?...

BinT said...

CV:

I am sorry to have upset you. You are apparently to stupid to understand. I suspect your last friend has been long gone. If he ever existed. What part of You Are a Manic-Depressive Nutcase don't you understand?

...There, is that better now? Are these more the terms you want to debate with? You have depopulated the blog single-handedly, and apparently are a narcissistic idiot..

cv said...

@Q's

The comments I tried to post earlier (which were VERY NICE & napologetical, by the way), still have not managed to stick...

Since I still have 'authoring' priviledges on this blog (at least for now)...

I'll try to assemble them into a weekend post (along with what is basically a BLANKET apology to everyone here on this blog for having ruined your lives with my thoughts...)...

I'll post it SATURDAY (tomorrow)... If that is still OK with Amen & Andy T... If it never appears... well, then y'all will know that my priviledges have been revoked...

It may be my last, depending on how things go...

cv said...

@Bruce (4:43)

Thanks for the response Bruce...

I'm grateful to know how you stand (even if it's not pleasant)...

& believe me when I say this... THANK YOU for your former patronage (before I devolved into my current manic depressive nutcase state)... It meant a lot to me at that time, as I'm sure it means a lot to Andy & Amen (& all the rest) now...

Be very clear when I say that...

Humans... to me... sometimes have very short windows of interaction... Afterwards, sometimes those windows may close (just go ask the millions of DIVORCED couples that populate this country)...

I've never been married (to the THANKFUL benefit of the potential women I might have married)... But I can say that in my heart, I'd have tried to glean the GOOD parts of the relationship over the FALLING OUT period...

I might be tilting at windmills by saying that, but not really... I 'wish' you the best... I'm 'sad' that we no longer see eye to eye...

I'm sad you've lost all respect for me that you once may have had... I've never made any consciopus attempt to MANIPULATE anyone here...

Tossing in my two pennies. said...

Sometimes I can be a pig for punishment and I guess I am feeling the need to be abused.

Cvienne – This is the internet, no one has a clue if you really do have a farm or a million dollars in nickels or you are an aerobics coach and they do not care.

That does not mean they do not like you or care about you, it just means you are and always will be an anonymous person on the other end of their screen.

We have no clue if BinT is really a Dr or if he is a good one and no one really cares.

We have no clue if Ben is really a financial planner or if he is any good at it and no one really cares.

What people care about is the fact that they contribute ideas and thoughts that help them (the people) stop and go hmmmm from time to time. In order to do that they need to check their egos at the door.

This does not mean they should not share parts of their lives with us, but honestly no body wants to come here day after day and hear about how BinT saved the life of a critical patient and he did it with a butter knife while blindfolded, no one wants to hear Ben tell story after story about how he saved old lady Patwaski enough money she could buy her own fleet of jumbo jets.

And on the occasions they (And many others) have shared a special moment in their life, but it was not received with the enthusiasm they felt they deserved they did not go trying to elicit that enthusiasm

Basically they checked their ego at the door.

CV, you have a good mind and a lot to contribute, but your ego gets in the way.

This is the internet where you are and always will be anonymous, perhaps you should check your ego at the door too.

There that is my 2 cents do with it what you want, but what the hell do I know I am only a Mangy Ass Mutt

Mutt

cv said...

@mutt

I thank you, as always, for your contributions as well...

But I gotta say from the <3...

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- I DO care that ben is a financial planner, believe he is, & his opinion on things is partly shaped (in my mind) by that dynamic...

- I do believe that everything Bruce represents himself to be is TRUE... Acknowledge it's place in society, & have never criticized the pursuit of that lifestyle...

- Andy... as I've known, has family, goes camping, does great chart analysis (the likes of which I've never witnessed before), likes football, has BEEN IN some FF leagues that I was involved in... None of that matters to me...

- Amen is a master of stick definitions... Knows, probably, a shitload more than I do about OLD SCHOOL discography (which is a FEAT, I tell you)... & turned NOT ONLY MYSELF, but by extension, a WHOLE FIELD of you others, onto the 3lb theory (which I take a little credit for having been a conduit for)...

- Mel (on the music scene)... Has stories that would probably blow all of out minds...

- I represent MYSELF... If people want to adjudicate that there's EGO involved in that, (Madonna or no Madonna) that's their prerogative (I never tell Mel that he's an egomaniac for talking about Dan Seals - I just think 'it's cool')... I've done what I've done... I've TALKED about what I've done because in a forum, I've found that oftentimes that's INTERESTING to people...

YOU SAY 'it's not'... I say 'it IS'...

My own proof for saying that is that IF IT WERE NOT THE CASE, then I'd have ZERO recollection of what Andy, ben, or Bruce, or Mel, or Amen did...

We're not (or at least I'M NOT) comparing dick sizes here...

I offer my opinions here about the precarious nature of the world economy (I don't talk about it in my group fitness classes - I talk about strategies & shortcuts they might want to try to help them towards their goals)...

The consensus (with regards to my dire outlook on economic 'zippity-doo-dah')... OBVIOUSLY (based on the behavioral consensis of bloggers here)... is that it's not AS BAD as I make it out to be (otherwise it's likely that I'd have a lot of friends - & people would be hanging on my every word)...

cv said...

@Mutt

Here Mutt... This is exclusively for you...

http://www.tacticalintelligence.net/blog/shtf-survival-qa-a-first-hand-account.htm

It's a first hand account of a regular dude who lived in Bosnia during a turmoil & crisis...

- this wasn't the DARK AGES
- This wasn't HYPERBOLE

This was OUR LIFETIMES in a village that was not unlike America... (well - unless you listen to the opinions of Americans who are so arrogant to tell you that IT COULD NEVER HAPPEN HERE)...

Enjoy...

Then AFTERWARDS talk to me about checking my ego at the door, OR, my insensitive non-homogenic HONEY vs. VINEGAR attempts about doing my best to alert a few (what I thought were - FRIENDS), about taking steps in securing an insurance policy on their own existence vs. the world that surrounds them...

cv said...

@ben @ Andy

Come to think of it... The RHETORIC (in my estimation, on this blog)... Has been turned up to such a degree over the past few days (probably MY OWN FAULT)... That I've seriously started to wonder if there are any ELLIOTT WAVE implications as to the socioeconomic behavioral patterns...

Namely...

EITHER

Something terrible is about to go down (due to the denial factor, and/or motivation to silence a negative voice)...

OR

My own lunacy has reached epic proportions (which would qualify me as a 'contrarian market indicator') & it means we're on the verge of the most epic economic recovery of all time...

Please... FOR ALL TRADERS SAKE... Use this knowledge to your advantage (if, in fact, it is)...

So as not to upset the HERD... You can respond by e-mail so as NOT to spook the horses...

cv...

Lancing a Bole said...

Oh look the Pig for Punishment, is covered with boles, lets grab a rusty skewer and lance them all…..

Cvienne – People build houses and farms near rivers, knowing someday the river WILL flood, they build schools and towns in tornado ally knowing there WILL someday be a tornado.

I am not telling you anything you previously did not know.

There is little doubt that someday there WILL be a financial meltdown, but when will it be, how sever will it be, how long will it last.

You are not telling anyone anything they do not already know

But onto the more pressing issue and although it is doubtful you will chose to see what is being said, I do need that bole lanced and then rubbed down with salt so here goes.

You said “(what I thought were - FRIENDS),”

I said “they did not go trying to elicit that enthusiasm”

Just because someone does not run out an buy a tractor and seed corn, does not mean they are not preparing, they have to prepare for life the way they believe best.

The internet is not a popularity contest, yea I like Andy (Don’t know Mel) and Bruce and Thor and Ben and LeftBack and a whole lot of other people and it would be swell if they liked me back, but I certainly do not need to brow beat them “(what I thought were - FRIENDS),”

Mutt

cv said...

@Mutt

"Boil"... (not BOLE)

But since I listen to what you are trying to say... I know what you're referring to...

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Never fear... because as "boils" go... they tend to fade into scabs...

Then, sometimes, after years, it is impossible to recognize that they were ever there in the first place...

Thanks to doctors like Bruce...

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